The agreed-upon age of the universe and the earth itself has changed within the scientific community within the last twenty years (fact); nobody who wants to make sense within the religious world is claiming that we are built of anything other than the same elements that the stars are made of (fact); theories about the evolution of man are based largely off of tenuous evidence that is often taken for granted once its put onto a chart that shows a hairy man becoming more and more upright (fact); the Bible does not give a comprehensive timeline of human events and does not claim to (fact); and we are taking on "faith" most of the facts stated in the prior post (fact).

The thing most interesting to me to find out is how many people are going to assume that I'm a religious nut taking everything that fundamentalist Christian preachers thump out to be true. It may be important to note that I think that much of what has been said here is absolutely true. But while science is wonderful, the sort of thinking that it can lead to is just as dangerous and based on exclusiveness as religion; it's the same condition of humanity manifesting itself in two divergent places. After reading both Silvius' essay and the posts here, I think that both sides of this endless debate have forgotten that the central tenets of their beliefs has nothing to do with disregarding reason in favor of noise. Both science and religion are filled with breakdowns in thinking -- can anyone here think of an error that was ever made in their own field? For the Christians here, show some of that famous tolerance for all men; for the scientists, at least have a passing understanding of the thing you are assaulting.