Cloning: Right or Wrong

Cloning people is just plain wrong. Every person in the world is supposed to be different, and thats just how things are. It's amazing that there will never be another copy of me, and thats how I want it to stay. Forget about this God crap. Yes, I am christian and believe what I want, but who wants to be remade? What's it really gonna help with? Yes, it could help people who are sick, but a clone will be a person too. Cloning would basically be using the clone as a product. The clone is going to have a life and feelings, too. After all, they are human. So, stick to cloning fruits, not humans.

Why don't we move on in the world and see things differently than our ancestors did. Cloning could be a fantastic thing, but we have to be very careful of how we use it. It doesn't matter if there is a god or not, it's our world to live on so lets make th most of it and use the technology we have.

Okay, I have yet to see one post on this site that is actually tangible. Everyone on here that has made a post has either argued that "This is wrong because my God says so", or "Cloning is not wrong because God doesn't exist". Get yourselves off of the topic of God, and make the decision for yourselves, not because "This isn't how we're supposed to be, or God would've made us this way."

Just forget about God for a moment and make this an informed decision. I believe that cloning is wrong due to the fact that we're starting to "customize" our children. How intrusive and invasive is that? We start creating designer babies, making them faster, stronger, etc. This swings their own natural selective options to your own biased will. You want your child to be able to be smarter than anyone else, do it naturally and TEACH THEM. We today are trying to cheat the genetic code that makes us who we are. The genetic lottery will soon die out, and we'll all be living in one big "Stepfordian" novel.

well cloning is/should be researched
i belive in god he made us for a reason n stuff like that but if he didnt want us to clone things n stuff he would of made cloning impossible or somthing
im all for cloning but not, reproductivly
wats the point of it? there r natral clones n e ways "twins" identicle just 1 cell that cloned itself as it was matureing n stuff

im doing a research/ benchmark on cloning pretty hard not that much info

First off, I don't understand how God factors into this argument. I for one am an agnostic.

Reproductive cloning of humans is very wrong and is quite useless. Why would anyone want to be cloned? Why would people want "perfect humans" to be brought into the world?

Reproductive cloning to save endangered animals should take place because cloning animals doesn't have the social/moral effects that cloning humans would have.

i dont believe its ok to clone HUMANS but on the other had i do believe its okay to produce identicle parts FROM humans with Therapeutic cloning, also known as Somatic cell nuclear transfer or research cloning. stem cells to produced skin for example. Its still cloning but not in a inhumane way. what would be the poinbt in cloning a human anyway?

yeah, I agree with "cloning: Frankenstein". I read that book and i am making some research for my essay. It is true what about if scientists create a monster, i mean humans are not perfect how do we expect a perfect "cloning" from people that are not even "Perfect".What about individuality? We have to let life to fulfill its cycle. We cannot avoid death.

Can anyone on this site spell? I think that proves that both extremes on this issue need to do some research. Basing an argument on religion is just as illogical as basing one on anti-religious notions.

I am researching cloning to compare it with frankenstein. for those of you who think that is a big weird green monster, you are wrong. Viktor frankenstein created a monster, out of peices of corpses, who was nameless. this monster was basicly like a clone. he was shuned from society because he was different. then he killed and destroyed because he wasent happy. whose to say this wont happen with human clones? what if they cant control their emotions like us? after all they arnt exactly like us. so i think cloning is wrong. wether u believe in god or not, its just wrong. we dont know if we will be able to control them so why risk it?

I'm doing a report to but you guys are not a real big help. I believe in god but this isn't about god. Seriously i would hate to see you guys in a fight about abortion. I don't think cloning is right even if it would be cool to have a copy of yourself. But we dont know if they could turn out be more geneticly inhanced, of use the unknown part of their brain. It is unfair to the clone too because its against human rights. i'M IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND I'M HAVING DEEPER THOUGHTS THAN MOST OF YOU GUYS. THATS SAD.

maybe we should all ask ourselves about cloning "just because we can, should we?"

Isn't the debate about god rather off topic? whether he exists or not, i think cloning is wrong, imagine what these children would be thinking, they would have to live up to peoples' expectations all the time, normal kids don;t have that kind of pressure and are free to make their own personalities. The adult the cell came from will always be thinking, 'well I wasnt like that,' and, 'oh she's different to me'. and if you bring back someone from the dead they're gna have a completely different personality to the previous person and then youll jst be disappointed. it's too much pressure on the clone. But i am all in favour of cloning organs.

God indirectly made GAY porn then, and charls manson, and shitty bands like "fall out boys"

evolution <3
logic <3

if u say God doesn't exist...tell me y r we living?what is the purpose of this life,this world?we jus eat 2 live,find shelter to survive,have babies so that this world doesnt end.but have u ever thought y?whats the purpose of surviving?its only cuz God made this world 2 test which humans will believe in Him after showing them the billion signs...ad which will ignore the signs.Thus,He shall reward and punish after death.God made life and death.do u really think He cant control them?

YOU GUYS AND YOUR RELIGOUS DISAGREEMENT. THIS SIGHT SHOULD BE CALLED RELIGOUS DEBATE WITH A LITTLE BIT OF CLONING ON THE SIDE. LETS TALK ABOUT CLONING I THINK GIVE IT A CHANCE. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH IT CAN BENEFIT YOU UNTIL YOU EXPIERIANCE IT FIRSTHAND. SCREW THAT! IM A FULL ON BELIEVER OF CLONING UNTIL SOMEONE CAN SHOW ME THE BAD THINGS ITS DONE AND IS DOING.

100 PERCENT FOR CLONING

Seriously, what the hell does he have to do with it? I personally don't believe in god (I'm an atheist, deal with it) but whatever you believe is up to you. I'm just angry that many of the reasons people are against cloning is because they believe that people are "Playing God". I don't have a problem with a belief in God, it's just when this "faith" begins to block scientific progress, I get kind of angry. Cloning happens in nature people! Before, people had absolutely no problem in letting scientists genetically engineer animals and plants (it's called hybridization people) to make better plants, more adaptable livestock, etc.

*sigh* I just wish people wouldn't have opinions on something they don't understand... (some of you do, but a lot of you don't)

Well, I'm writing a paper on cloning, and I just want to point out that it seems that very few people here have actually researched cloning. For those against cloning, and the fact that you don't want identical people, does that mean you're against identical twins? Should we just kill one because they are alike? All for the sake of being different and I right? Wrong. Of course, I'm no advocate of human cloning. If we perfect human cloning, we might be able to create a "superhuman", as in physically strong, talented. Ethically, I think it is wrong. However we should clone for the advancement of medicine, such as stem cell research. People say that we are killing people by killing embryos. Wait until you get a terminal illness or another incurable disease, then you will think twice about saying killing embryos is wrong. Just my 2 cents.

Okay okay, everyone brings up good points, cloning is great to have for people that need the organs. Cloning would solve alot of problems. But the bad side is that cloning could cause so many problems. It would cause genes that 'died' to become one again. It would cause defects. Some things weren't meant to happen.
On the subject of God. He did create this world, he created everything, he created Man, Woman was created so Man wouldn't be lonely, to have a mate. We might not see God, or Jesus, but We have faith that he will provide us with guidence.The Bible is not only the only proof that God is there, And Jesus Christ. Everything around us is proof, we wouldn't be what we are today if it wasn't for God, He gives us so many blessings that we can't even count them. There is a reason that there is no Human cloning, I might not know the full reason, I mean our faith wouldn't Wax stronger if it wasn't for all the problems that we have today. We have the Free Will to make the right descion. Without these problems then who would we rely on? we are just Humans, and this world is crashing down around us. If you can't see it then your blind or Ignorant. If you say there is no god, then you are lying to yourself, there is like a 1 out of Infinity that something like the creation of Earth would even begin, some say its a conwincedence, I know better. God is there, He is there for all of us.

our economy doesnt need this rith now and what is the point of it anyway all we are doing iis wasting our money!!!

i'm 12 and i am on both sides with "God" AND evolution. WE, ALL OF US had to have come from SOMEWHERE, right? but i dont belive that God made us evole i think science did that to us. but cloning is benificial like it could lead to teleportation and what it said at the top.

a lot of u seem to questions things u dont understand,and the things that do seem very clear to you are in fact not, Cloning or no cloning technology is going to get more advanced one way or the other, If cloning can replace my heart when i have a severe injury than fine, but if it creates a whole bunch of other problems it should be thought through better, With great power comes great responsibility

i think cloning is tottaly wrong.....although there are some benefits i think it just fighting against nature and beliving that it is possible to do things above the knowledge givin to us. cloning is not bringing back originals that god made its just making human like freaks in labs.
i also think that cloning animals is the same as abusing them...i mean common they never asked for any of this and how would you feel if you were told 'ya dude, do you noe ur a dang clone'
think back pplz =D

Cloning is useful to help rid the world of diseases and can be used to benefit society in many different ways. God aside there is nothing morally wrong about taking cells to create a new being. Cloning can regenerate body parts to replace things like hearts and kidneys. Cloning also has the potential to make great people last forever. If it helps to save lives more lifes than it hurts how could cloning possibly be regarded as wrong.

too many comments..hahaha..we're goin' to have a debate and cloning is one of the possible topics..actually,,i don't know whether cloning is wrong or right..it's a science, yes. cloning is natural at some points, like asexual reproduction. it can also be genetically created. people do cloning because they study and learn; and needed by the society. a thing will never be done unless someone needed it. the Creator of all mankind does gives everyone the freedom of what they want to do and wisdom to think. i think God will stop anyone from doin' some actions if He knows it'll caused no good. and if you notice that God doesn't respond immediately, maybe He has a greater plan for it...just wait (patience) and believe (faith).. =D

cloning is wrong. yes, i am religious and i believe in God but im putting that aside right now since that has nothing to do with actual cloning. but some people say (like a lot of the people here) that cloning is the best thing in the world, because you can bring loved ones back to life. But if you actually cloned a loved one, it would not be your relative or friend at all, but a sick, human-like, auto-piloted creation of scientists.

It is unfortunate that the term "cloning" refers to three very different procedures with three very different goals. It is also unfortunate that the first thought many people have when they hear the term is of horror movies which have showed the creation of human monsters or of armies of superhuman soldiers with subhuman brains. The reality of cloning is very different.
Embryo cloning: This is a medical technique which produces monozygotic (identical) twins or triplets. It duplicates the process that nature uses to produce twins or triplets. One or more cells are removed from a fertilized embryo and encouraged to develop into one or more duplicate embryos. Twins or triplets are thus formed, with identical DNA. This has been done for many years on various species of animals; only very limited experimentation has been done on humans.
Adult DNA cloning (a.k.a. reproductive cloning) This technique which is intended to produce a duplicate of an existing animal. It has been used to clone a sheep and other mammals. The DNA from an ovum is removed and replaced with the DNA from a cell removed from an adult animal. Then, the fertilized ovum, now called a pre-embryo, is implanted in a womb and allowed to develop into a new animal. As of 2002-JAN, It had not been tried on humans. It is specifically forbidden by law in many countries. There are rumors that Dr. Severino Aninori has successfully initiated a pregnancy through reproductive cloning. It has the potential of producing a twin of an existing person. Based on previous animal studies, it also has the potential of producing severe genetic defects. For the latter reason alone, many medical ethicists consider it to be a profoundly immoral procedure when done on humans.
Therapeutic cloning (a.k.a. biomedical cloning): This is a procedure whose initial stages are identical to adult DNA cloning. However, the stem cells are removed from the pre-embryo with the intent of producing tissue or a whole organ for transplant back into the person who supplied the DNA. The pre-embryo dies in the process. The goal of therapeutic cloning is to produce a healthy copy of a sick person's tissue or organ for transplant. This technique would be vastly superior to relying on organ transplants from other people. The supply would be unlimited, so there would be no waiting lists. The tissue or organ would have the sick person's original DNA; the patient would not have to take immunosuppressant drugs for the rest of their life, as is now required after transplants. There would not be any danger of organ rejection.

errrm would just like to counteract the whole god thing... maybe there is a 'force' out there that created everything but the first law of science is energy is never EVER created from nothing..so were did your god come from?

im a GCSE student, and im doing courswork about human cloning, and wether it's right or not. and, i may only be 15, but i have my own thoughts too.

first of all, i agree that God does NOT exist. its great you have someone to believe in, but i myslef believe we weren't made by God.

but i also believe cloning is wrong. i'm for theraputic cloning, but cloning to get another one of us?? not because it'll get 'anoying', but because by doing so we will become a 'perfect' world, and thats not what we need. also, we wont move onwards in the world as much as before. we wont be able to adapt to our new world if it changes. and cloning would mean more people, right? there are already too many people in this world. more than there ever has been. so why do we need more? cloning is just a way for humans to prove we can do what people believe God can do. and humans in general do what they can without thinking properly of the consequencis. we all do it, so dont deny it.

thats what i believe. as i said i am for theraputic cloning, but otherwise i am against it. i also dont agree with what they do while cloning on animals. they have just as strong a right to be living. we use them as puppets, throughing their lives away. whats the point??

i'm not saying i hate those who agree with it. youre not evil, just human. some agree, some dont. thats life.

im only 15, yet i have a strong belief. surely you do too? i would like to hear what you think. it will also help with my coursework.

well, we think reproductive cloning is wrong because because it is creating a damaged version of a living organism(which is just rude!) but theraputic cloning is fab because people benefit loads and it cures diseases!!!!!!!!!!!
Would you really won't another you?(we like being unique !!!

I would have to agree that people do make people in a way...but God made the man and woman in the first place so they could reproduce...so actually God still "made" people...but anyways cloning is unethical in most respects...to make a clone you have to kill an embryo by taking out the nucleus and put it in another one...and this whole cloning process isn't perfected, not even close...when dolly the sheep was cloned 277 embryos died and only one attempt was successful...ONE of 277...so by what some of you are saying, it doesn't matter if 277 people die, "let science do what it wants"...if u r religous like u say u r then how could u stand to let embryos(future people) die?...dolly developed arthritis and lung disease and died at a very early age...so we also won't care that people(clones) are dying at early ages or have to live with many diseases?........on another note...will these clones have soles? will they go to heaven as "non-cloned" people do? i don't know...no one does but God himself...y mess with natural reproduction? its not worth all the arguing and debate.

I have read all the comments...

How do you KNOW there is a God? You don't. You just have faith in the fact that he may be real. But, you do not know. Which means, you shouldn't base your reason for something being wrong on religion. Freedom of religion is a beautiful thing, we shouldn't restrict scientists because of our religion. I believe in God but I still think we should let scientists clone whatever they want.

You are aware that a clone comes out as a baby, correct? Which means, like any other baby, it's environment determines if it fits in with other beings. Clones are just genetic copies of a previous being. So, unless the first thing was born a psycho killer, the clone wont come out as a psycho killer UNLESS they grew up the SAME EXACT way.

"Humans don't make humans"...WHAT?!? Thats called SEX. When 2 humans, a man and a woman, love each other very much, they get married and the man puts his sperm in the woman's egg. That process makes a baby. TADA! Humans making humans. God may help but God would also help the petri dish create a baby too!

What I'm saying is, if you're going to disagree, please back it up with something TRUE and don't base it on your religious BELIEF.

wouldn,t it be good if you needed a kidney and scientists could clone 1.
but killing a feotus is a bit harsh.

The concept of human cloning does not necessarily refer to making an identical copy of a human being, but it can refer to making copies of certain cells, which can lead to improvements in the research of cancer and other diseases. It is not pointless. Cloning can save many lives and also improve scientific knowledge and understanding, but unfortunately this comes at a cost, as there is a very low success rate.

even if u say that its not killing people so human cloning still should be done, it doesnt really matter! why would someone want a clone of themselves wen they kno that the cloned person will not react in life like normal ppl?
it is completely wrong. and think of it this way? why would humans create humans? thats not right....its only Gods right to do so bc the power of creating a human is completetly not a human thing to do. anyways, even if now lets say we were able to clone ppl, they will die right away, not being able to live more than a couple of yrs. if ppl are already cloning animals nd the animals r dying rite away from diseases, than imagine wat wud happen to the human that is clones. that human clone will die right away nd other than that, he/she will not react like we normal ppl react that were created from GOD.
human cloning is completely wrong, nd ppl r out of their minds if they agree with it.

ok well first of all its the stupidest thing ever!! and why would you want someone exactly like you? that would get way annoying! and why do we need more people in the world that commit crimes? ITS SO DUMB! god made us who we are and if your different than everyone else than OBVIOUSLY thats how your supposed to be...you cant just go to the doctor and say "change my child..there not perfect." NOBODY is perfect so to all you dumb people out there i think that you should stop doing all this genetic engineering and GET A LIFE! DUH!..................................P.S..all you people that think genetic engineering is cool..ITS NOT! so let the kids be who there supposed to be! not who you want them to be...

It is great achievement for scientists to perform clone,from results, cloning produces imperfect creatures. Humans must not be cloned, it is not only dis-respect upon the dignity of man but also to the Almighty Creator.
We might emplore the highly developed minds of the homo sapiens to explore how diseases are cured using the clone, but all men must remain mortal. Anything having a beginning also have an end therefore cloning humans(Imagine that) for any reasons remains un-acceptable and horror.

"any discovery that teaches upon human creation is not simply a matter of scientific inquiry but also a matter of morality and spirituality" Bill Clinton.

we are playing the role of god and how is cloning going to help us all it is doing is hurting us

Well we deffinatly dont need another hillary clinton but it doesnt matter because they shouldnt do it. most of the clones die anyways. and when they dont die they have major health problems. so basically all cloning is doing is using up money.

think about what would happen if we cloned people like bush, do we really want another person who can not speak correct english

It will be risking human lives by human cloning. it took the sheep dolly 277 trys and many sheep died in the prosses. Do we realy whant to put human lives in jeperdy JUST so we can find out if it is possible?

GOD MAKES BABIES AND NOT PLASTIC PETRE DISHES