Hypnagogia: A Bridge to Other Realities
Biology 202
2000 First Web Report
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Yun-Wen Shaw
" To dream and altogether not
to dream. This synthesis is the
operation of genius, by which both
activities are mutually reinforced."
The phenomenon of the hypnagogic hallucinations which occur in this
period are characterized by a slideshow of highly condensed,
discontinuous, and bizarre imagery of faces, figures, animals, print
and writing. Also accompanying this is often hearing one’s name being
whispered, hearing music, and undergoing temporary physical paralysis (4, 7).
These visual, auditory, and physical stimuli, have been known to
cultivate intuition, bring flashes of inspiration, and offer creative
insight to those who experience them (1).
During this fleeting psycho-physical state, people report randomly
occurring visual and auditory experiences which are relatively more
disconnected and short-lived when compared to dreams characteristic of
REM sleep. Hypnagogia is in fact very common, occurring in 72 to 77
percent of the population, many are unaware of the phenomena (1).
A possible physical explanation for Hypnagogia is rooted in the discovery of magnetite crystals in cells of the brain and meninges. It has been found that there are five million magnetite crystals per gram in the human brain, and twenty times that number in the meninges (2). These ‘biomagnetite crystals’ are oriented in the brain in a manner that maximizes their magnetic moment, thus allowing the crystals to act as a system, and marking the ability of the brain to sense energy fields (4). These crystals could very possibly be the cause and explanation behind psychic abilities, as well as the feelings of intuition during states of hypnagogia.
Let us further explore how this phenomenon may be possible. Studies that show the proximity of the crystal-containing brain cells to the pituitary and pineal glands, have led researchers to propose that these glands may use information from the earth’s magnetic field to regulate the release of hormones in the brain, thus directly controlling conscious awareness levels (2).
However, there is still no way to ’read’ the signals that might be carried by the brains magnetic emissions. Despite this being so, the evidence indicating the existence of these signals and their possible constitution of a means of communication between various parts of the brain, is very compelling. This is the system that many speculate to be that which selects the neural areas to be recruited, so that the appropriate state of consciousness can elicit the suitable phenomenological, behavioral, and affective responses (4).
Studies have been done to show that various low intensity magnetic signals delivered to the temporal lobes indeed have a positive effect of producing various hallucinatory effects in the subject . Such effects include vestibular feelings in which one’s normal sense of balance is replaced by illusions of levitation and vertigo. Also experienced are transient ‘visions,’ whose context include motifs that appear in near-death experiences and alien abduction scenarios. Another neuromagentically elicited experience is bursts of emotion, most commonly fear and joy. Interestingly, all of these experiences very closely approximate those in the hypnagogic state.
Further experimentation performed on monkeys has determined the temporal lobes to be the part of the brain which mediates various states of consciousness. EEG readouts from the temporal lobes are markedly different when a person is asleep and undergoing a hallucinogenic seizure, or on LSD. In this case, seizural disorders confined to the temporal lobes (complex partial seizures) were characterized as impairments of consciousness. In the study, monkeys were given LSD after having various parts of their brains removed. The monkeys continued to ‘trip’ no matter what parts of the brains were missing. Only in the case where both temporal lobes were removed did the substance seem to have no affect the monkeys at all. The conclusion inarguably shows that the temporal lobes, in addition to all their other functions (in aspects of memory, language, music, etc.), also function to mediate states of consciousness (4).
The interpretation of hypnagogic images in some studies have seemed to provide striking examples not only of the existence of various states of consciousness, but also of clairvoyance and telepathy (7). In his book Hypnagogia, Andreas Mavromatis declares that "…hypnagogia gives rise to the insight that there are many realities and that what we call wakefulness merely constitutes one of them…hypnagogia suggests the evolutional possibility of a further expansion of consciousness, and poses a serious question concerning the nature of reality" (7). People have applied many different strategies to channel into the "powers of the hypnogic’ by means of meditation, hypnosis, spiritualism, hallucinogenic drug use, and others. Many hypnogists report states of instantaneous intuition, exhilaration with an inspired poem, mystical insights, and exquisite peaceful joy. Occultists believe they can tap into clairvoyant experiences in the hypnagogic. Others feel that they can engage in self-hypnosis so that they can achieve things they thought impossible or too difficult, by hypnagogic visualization (5).
Hypnagogic stages of sleep, with all its hallucinatory imagery, tends to act as compelling explanations for many claims of alien or supernatural encounters. It is easy to imagine how an individual who has had a hypnagogic experience with sleep paralysis, who is not familiar with the neurological explanation, to likely interpret their strange experience in terms of their cultural beliefs or in other bizarre supernatural terms (2). Hypnagogia presets new dimensions of a true New Age exploration, waiting for us all to travel together into this New World. And if any are skeptical, we can gain confidence in our hypnagogic pursuits from the realization that we are following in the footsteps of some of the most creative, intuitive and influential human minds in history. After all, Aristotle and Einstein can’t be wrong.
WWW Sources
1) Altered States2) Mind Whispers - Psychics and Scientists ; Patrick Marsolek
3) Hypnagogia ; Robert Novella
4) The Production of Consciousness out of States of Consciousness
5) Psychic Syzygy: Hypnagogic Antilogic
6) Paradigms of Consciousness During Sleep; Donald J. DeGracia, Ph.D.
7) Hypnagogia: Bridge to Other Realities
i noticed your link to my article "Mind whispers..." on your page on Hypnagogia:
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/neuro/neuro00/web3/Shaw.html
needs to be updated.
The correct link is now:
http://www.innerworkingsresources.com/articles/mindwhispers.html
Warm regards ... Patrick Marsolek, 13 June 2006
I was reading ur article on Hypnagogia. I've have had serious Sleep paralysis before falling asleep for the last 10 years. I am 27. I just wanted to share that it's incredably terifiying. When this started I guess I had hypnagogic hallucinations for the first 3. And it's not fun. I think that people who don't have think of it as romantic. (p.s. I'm not insulting you guys) But sometime it feels like i'm going to die. Maybee because i was always scared I did not understad it. I have done 3 sleep tests. And nothing wrong was found. I went to see a neurologist at mount sinai hospital in toronto. They did a cat scan and my brain was 100%. But that i might have a cross between epilepsy and narcolepsy and that they could do nothing to help me. I told the doctor to go f-himself, and left. Who can I talk to about this? I would love to share my experiences and maybee understand them beter? Any help would be greatly appreciated ... Anthony Lorusso, 30 December 2007



Comments
hey guys.
I appreciate many of the comments, I have been studying narcolepsy lately once I found out it was often accompanied with hypnagogia, I do not have narcolepsy, but I have had sleep paralysis/hypnagogia etc for most my life. Last night when I awoke (or 'felt' entirely conscious) it felt like someone turned the static on a radio up, there was a pause and a breath, and a voice said "...don't fuck with me" the voice was very clear and intense. I have no idea what it related too.
I try to take histamines to sleep since I've heard they delay the REM onset (from occurring too quickly), I also heard this results in overall poorer sleep, but it is worth it if I can wake up without voices talking to me.
This is very difficult for me to deal with. I really wish I could talk to someone about it, but every time I try to bring it up to people close to me, I know they don't understand the depth of the pain it can cause. It is very hard to be optimistic when I hear voices angry and screaming at me every so often, and God knows what the hell it is.
I know many of you see this as positive but this is horrific to me. I have heard hundreds of voices and all of them felt bad intentioned, terrifying, and evil. I don't know what to do anymore. I just feel really alone.
spirit walk?
I had the feeling of entities around, sometimes many, sometimes only one and all felt bad. I have had this happening for over 14 years. I'm 29 now. The way it's starts is I go to sleep, I feel a rush like a mental pulling outward and I'm in a completely dark (even if I left the light on in my room) area with wind blowing all around me. The wind is a feeling, but neither cold nor hot. The presence can be felt and it's bad. There is one instance where once presence was a calm, protective one. It spoke in a male, soft spoken voice and asked to follow it.
When the "dream" is over I feel like I'm being pushed back into my mind and I wake up shaking and disoriented. At times, praying would help and others times I tried the "journey" and explore this "dream." I don't know what it is, but some people say it might be a spirit walk or astral projection. I am still unsure of it all myself.
You are not alone.
Any Christian Resources on Hypnagogia?
Wow! I've experienced hypnagogia since I was a teen and at the age of 42 am just realizing it for the first time ever after reading these posts. I was never really able to figure out what was going on with me and just came to term it as some kind of "pre-cognitive ability".
When it first happened, I found myself in the middle of the night digging thru newspapers my dad had saved about an Apollo rocket that'd blown up. Challenger exploded the next day. I never even knew he had the clippings stuffed away in a filing cabinet. It was like I was just drawn to them.
I have awakened in the middle of the night at the exact same time (or right before) people have been in harm's way or died. I'll have very specific dreams about friends (and more recently people I barely know) in distress (people I haven't talked to in months or years or never spoken with). I will contact them them by phone or in person and blow them away because they've told no one about what I just dreamed about (things like them being pregnant, medical diagnosis, having marital or financial problems, etc.)
I have always strongly shied away from considering it as a psychic ability, preferring to privately think of it as more a "gifting" in the prophetic realm - so I can pray with them and guide them along biblical perspectives. Just wondering if anyone is aware of any resources about this from a Christian perspective?
Hypnagogia
Thank God I'm not crazy xD
Monkeys
This is all very fascinating but using primates to investigate this thing is absolutely repellent. The pursuit of knowledge at any cost makes the human race poorer not richer.
voices/see people/head vibrates/body stuck..
voices/see people/head vibrates/body stuck....I'm a security guard over night sometimes Ill take a power nap and wake up to seing someone and hearing them trieng to wake me..I panic but can't move my body and my head starts rateling and vibrating loud and I feel scared but unable to move....it's crazy...but I'm glad I found this site...I'm not ahllone....
I've had this same
I've had this same experience, you're not alone. I've recently had dreams where a person/voice suddenly appears out of nowhere and starts talking to me. I'll wake up and see the same person in my room. Sometimes I'll be unable to speak after I wake up. The other night I felt like someone woke me up and I began to hear a voice in my head. I was really scared and then I heard a really loud clanging sound in my head--like if you were to hit a gong or something--my ears were also ringing and popping. I've talked to a physician friend of mine who is also a neuroscience researcher, and she seems to think I've been experiencing hypnopompic hallucinations. These hallucinations are nothing to be concerned about and are not "supernatural" experiences. They can result from sleep deprivation /disorders (i.e. narcolepsy, insomnia), stress, anxiety, depression, or SSRI (antidepressant) withdrawals, among other things. They're actually pretty common as well.
Exactly sir.. even i feel the
Exactly sir.. even i feel the same thing and have been feeling it since about 10 years.. Now am 24 and in recent years the voices are getting more clearer.. the paralysis is getting more scarry with horrible halucianations like someone is sleeping beside me or he is going to kill me now.. I always feel the touch of that imaginary person sleeping beside me..
Ultimately i somehow fight the paralysis,which is definetely not easy, and come to the complete wakeful state..
You have no idea how happy I
You have no idea how happy I am to hear that I'm not crazy! I mean I feel for all of you because I know how scary it is. But now after researching this I look at it as more of a gift. I knew it had something to do with my psychic abilities but I have no control over it. Just like I have no control over the nights when hypnagogia happens. But maybe now I can learn it and be able to harness it. I don't know..use it better. I'm gonna pay attention to the days my psychic abilities are really dead on to the nights I have the episodes. I willing to bet that my days are of more of a heighten awareness.
Peace to you
DG
Spiders and more
I see spiders coming down toward me too, and I hop out of bed, and look around, only to find there's nothing there. This has been happening since about age 16 for me (I'm 30 now), and it has evolved to a wide variety of other things "coming down toward me" or hovering over me. Sometimes they hover near the ceiling in other parts of the room. But despite the darkness and despite my lack of contacts or glasses (I shouldn't be able to see), I can see these things and the rest of the room fairly clearly. Luckily I haven't seen many beings, except for once when I saw several small brown beings motioning for me to come with them through a rectangle cut out of the wall near the ceiling. Last night it was a "happier" thing - I saw a bunch of cherries above me. This was after thinking to myself, "it would be nice to at least see something pleasant instead of this weird stuff." Because the night before that I saw a big six-foot tall black bear with a feline face. It was very "cute" looking, but I was wondering what the heck it was doing there, so I freaked-out (for about five seconds). I've also seen a black skeleton twirling in the corner, purple silvery butterflies swooshing, and an awning full of water about to splash on me. One more interesting thing to note is that once I decided in "the waking world" that I was no longer "afraid" of bugs and would capture and release them outside instead of killing them, I pretty much stopped seeing the spiders. The weird part is that I feel awake when it happens and my eyes are open and I'm looking at whatever strange thing it is, wondering what is going on. Sometimes I'm freaked-out and other times I'm just confused. Glad it's not just me! The first time it happened to me, I was about five years old and saw a short clown that looked like Beaker the Muppet at the foot of my bed and he tickled my feet and I was pretty upset about it, and of course no one believed me. 25 years later, I will still barely allow my feet to be exposed in bed in the dark! No noises or paralysis here, just "hallucinations" (or are they)? Usually the only reason I'm "scared" when it happens is because I'm wondering, "why is there a giant skeleton in my bedroom?" - I wish I could remember to not react so quickly with fear and instead be more like "oh okay, here we go again haha."
spiders and more
Im 40, and have been seeing the spiders since a young boy.Over the years they have at times scared me, usually now they do make me jump.The last occasions, twice in the last week.The spider is usually hanging by me when i wake in the night.They used to swing down towards my face, crawl towards me or walk up the bedcover to me.Last night i woke to see hundreds of baby spiders swarming out of the wall.I have seen small spiders, and extremely large spiders.
Hypnagogia Maybe this is what is happening to me.
So over the last few months I have been going through this pattern when falling asleep. Somtimes when I am exhausted somtimes not. I will lay down and slowly fall asleep but I don't feel asleep per say. My mind is alert, and I think I am still awake. I can see my intire room exactly as it is. However I then start to panic as I try to move I realise I'm being held down, when i look at my arms there are 'shadow' streaks across my arms (as i sleep on my stomach)I can't move, then I figure I'm asleep but can't force myself to wake up it goes on for what feels like hours. Its very terrifying.
hypnagogia
I know exactly what you are talking about. I realize now that this has been happening since I was about 4 years old and now that i started paying attention to this, I'm figuring out how to control it.(and this was before i started doing research which was 1 hour ago) Just this morning I went into work but it was raining so i decided to sleep while it cleared up.(I work in construction) As i was dozing off, I felt myself going into the hypnagogia state. To anyone who saw me i appeared completely asleep but i was fully aware of what was going on around me. I could hear everything and think freely about whatever i wanted while in that state. I felt as if I was paralyzed and couldnt move. I used to panic when this would happen but i figured out a way to wake your self up from this so you dont suffer that panic feelings. When you start feeling paralyzed, try wiggling you fingers and if you can do that then you should stop, try to relax as much as possible and then wiggle your fingers again but at the same time try pushing yourself from the laying position as hard as possible and while doing that wiggle try wiggling you body and opening your eyes all at the same time. If it doesnt work the first time, then just relax and try it again. if you wake up try moving around for at least five minutes.( if you wake up from hypnagogia state then just try to sleep it off, you will fall right back in to the same situation) The shadows you see are just part of the halucinations that come with hypnagogia, its nothing too worry about. My strategy has been working for me for the past year and its great. once you start getting used to this you should try playing around with it. its kind of like a natural trippy high and its fun to mess with. Please reply to me if anyone gets a chance to read and attempt my strategy.
Resolving an accidental mess
I'm female and my hypnagogic experience started at age 34 lasting to present (age 51).
I got a book one day on how to become psychic - it said to 'open to it'. I didn't know what that meant so I made a goal to 'put my focus inward 24/7'. My thinking was, "When a person gets messages, they appear in the thought stream, so if I'm focusing inward all the time I can't miss them should they occur".
Unfortunately within a few months I got 'messages'. I say "unfortunately' because after I got really good at keeping my focus inward all day long, I got what looked like psychosis. I had this continually for nearly 2 years and then incorrectly concluded I had 'sleep deprivation symptoms'. What I didn't realize was that to get psychosis from sleep deprivation it doesn't take 9 whole years to build up a sleep debt!
To make a long story short, I finally realized my goal to 'focus inward' made me accidentally start seeing my what I imagined show up in my hypnagogia. In other words, I became an 'accidental hypnagogist'. For anyone whose never heard of this, 'hypnagogist' or 'someone who induces hypnagogic content', here's a link out of many out there which explains what it is and how to do it :
There are other pages that talk about how to induce this on the internet besides the one I just gave.
Unfortunately I became very very good at getting self-induced hypnagogic content. Imagine what that did to someone who didn't mean to do it, didn't know that's what it was, especially when the content became spooky and violent in topic. DON'T ASK. Seriously. I was in and out of E.R.'s trying to find out what went wrong with me.
Years later, in late 2009 (it started in 1990, btw), I finally figured out what it was and now I'm stuck having to undo and very nasty habit I accidentally started in 1990, which is hypnagogia I don't even want nor am interested in. This is why I first came to this site - to try to figure out the best way to rid this awful thing I gave myself.
That's my experience.
Why I'm not scared
I've had hypnagogic experiences since I was about 12-13 years old. I don't get scared because I know what is happening to my body. I accept the theory that what sets off hypnagogia is that when we go into REM sleep, our brain restricts our body from moving by blocking the signals to the body that tell us to move. This is so when you are running in your dream, you are not running in bed. The theory is that hypnogogia sufferers’ brains simply do not open up that block quickly enough after waking. This is why we experience temporary paralysis.
I think that knowing this calms me down. I do usually want the feeling to stop though because I get auditory hallucination when I have these experiences. My head starts to pound, the room vibrates violently up and down so I can't focus, I feel dizzy and very weak. Then I hear voices. They're always familiar voices, usally family members but I can't tell what they're saying, they're not talking to me. I'm always home alone when that happens so I know I'm imagining them. Sometimes I hear their footsteps around the house or I hear them rummaging through drawers and cupboards. I can see clearly the room I'm in (my memory fills in that blank I think, because I know my eyes are closed and therefore, I couldn't possibly be seeing where I am). The people are never in the same room as me. I just hear them in the room next door or downstairs but I never see them.
The feeling is not so much painful as it is uncomfortable. I feel so weak when it happens. I don't even try to open my eyes anymore. I just know that I don't have the strenght to do it. For me, it usually goes away on its own after what feels like a few minutes. Or maybe a sound in the house wakes me up and I just don't realize what it is that woke me up. Either way, I'm not too sure how to stop it but it eventually does stop.
It's not a scary experience for me. But I think if I were seeing what some of you see, I'd be scared too. I would suggest to those of you that have frightening experiences to try to tell yourselves that what you're seeing and/or hearing is not real. This is what I always do. Remember that you are safe, nothing can hurt you. You probaly have a great imagination and not understanding what is happening to you is very scary. So your brain comes up with a "reason" you're seeing or hearing these things. It fills in the blanks. Your brain's explanation manifests as threatning beings in the room because you don't believe that what is happening to you is normal, therefore, something must be making all of this happen. Try to have positive thoughts, there are no malevolent beings around you. I know it's easier said than done! I just couldn't imagine being that scared everytime it happened to me. I'm really sorry that you go through this when it happens to you.
hynogogia and narcolepsy
Gen,
I also have hypnogia as part of a group of symptoms of Narcolepsy. In the beginning some of the events were scary, but over time I managed to become more self aware of the hynogogic proceedings and even try to describe them as they were happening to my wife lying in bed next to me. Sleep paralysis would accompany these experiences and the words I spoke were completely understandable to me, but sounded like jibberish to her. I recently have tried to pronouce or spell one word to her trying to find a way to describe the experience while I am having it.
In addition, many of these experiences are accompanied by noises including a raspy sound akin to wind but more like a quivering sheet of metal and I have many experiences now where when these were coming on I was able to control the dream and actually fly up into the sky and go places and see some very beautiful things. The time when this is possible seems to be when the energy which is surging through my head and body is picking up and I let myself feel it and not try to block it and it picks me up almost like flying. I am writing about these events in a book form to try to both document them as well as analyze the process.
Also, I have noticed that many times I have gotten hypnogic reactions soon after orgasm when the energy flow in the body seems to be picked up in the brain after the body is somewhat dissapated. This is becoming increasingly common and seems to be related to rem sleep as many researchers have pointed out. However, the ability to control the hypnogia is a bit different than trying to do the same thing in ordinary dream sleep which is also possible.
I had experience over a three decade period where my regular dreams would continue from day to day and accumulate their own history, so the difference between life in the dream world because of this daily continuity was often difficult to delineate from the continuity of awake life.
I hope this gives you some ideas to ponder. Please write any more thoughts you have to my email address. It would be interesting to compare notes. Yours, David
hypnogogia
I feel like I experience this at least once every time I wake up, and once every time I am trying to fall asleep... if not more. As I fall asleep, I hear voices talking to me in conservation. At first it was weird, but I started to welcome it. It seems odd, but its kind of comforting, like I have these friends in other dimensions that visit me at night. If I pay too much attention to what they are saying their words start to become blurred and don't make any sense. If I kinda space out a little bit I am able to go along with the conversation. The only problem is that I am not able to remember much of it, since once I start to think about it, it all blurs.
When I wake up, I usually see images around my room. When I was younger it was fire or floating alphabet letters. Now it is all human figures. I swear I think I can reach out and touch them, they feel so real. But again, their images are blurred, like my eyes are out of focus. I feel myself sitting up to reach out and touch them, but then I realize that I havn't actually sat up at all, so I keep trying and failing. I get paralyzed. If I close my eyes or if the image goes away, it often can come back by my own will if I allow myself to see it. In order for it to go away, I have to snap myself into full consciousness, which is very hard for me to do.
I'd like to know more about this, but being human, I guess I get to just interpret it the way I want, right?
i actually enjoy hypnagogia
hi everyone. i have experienced hypnagogia for all my life. i have never found it to be scary or anything (although i have almost had a few OBEs which are scary for me) if i am really sleepy i will sometimes put on some ambient music and concentrate on that and i do begin to see hypnagogic visions and hear voices, sounds and sometimes even music. i see random people usually anime style but not any that exist so far as i know (i am into anime lol) i will also see some facinating landscapes and feel interesting concepts. yeah you can actually FEEL concepts. i also see swirling colors (this is what i see first) and then flashing lights. i saw a space ship traveling at light speed once, also i have seen the ocean from above clouds and i think i had wings or there was a winged person nearby. i dont see any of those geometric shapes that others say they see (i wish i could) but if i am lucky enough to get into a deep hypnagogic state, wow, now it can be very facinating. i usually take midday naps in order to not fall completely asleep. although lucid dreaming in my opinion more fun this is also fascinating.
Hypnagogia -- a possible solution
Members of my family, icluding my wife, had rather startling to nasty experiences within the state of Hynagogia, and even related to the Astral dream state. Hypnagogia is related to our passage through the Etheric sub-planes of this physical plane as we enter the very deep realm of sleep. Startling "mental events" can and often do take place, scaring the heck out of the experiencer.
I have used the following successfully in a number of such cases: Go to a Gnostic website, or Google in search -- TETRAGRAMMATON. YOU SHOULD FIND THE FIGURE IN BOTH COLOR AND BLACK ON WHITE. You may copy and paste it into a Word file, then resize as needed. Print it out. Seat yourself in a comfortable chair facing East. Hold the Tetragrammaton in your right hand across your chest with the APEX point of the star point upward toward your head.Say: "In the name of the the holy trinity, invoke the protective power of this holy and sacred TETRAGRAMMATON for this dwelling and all within. Recite this Mantra which is very powerful: KLIM KRISHNAYA GOVINDAYA GOPIJANA VALLABAYA SUA HA! Draw out the vowels -- i.e. iiiiiiiiiii and aaaaaaaaaa, etc. THEN, place the tetragrammaton, duly charged with a power that blazes on the Astral Plane and wards off ALL the tenebrous one, in your bedroom, in front of the doorway, with the APEX pointing inward and the SWORD pointing outward through the doorway. DO NOT turn it the other way around, or you are invoting the tenebrous ones to enter!!! Ensure that the charged Tetragrammaton in in its right place at night before you go to bed, and a lot -- if not all-- of those nasty experiences will disappear. Having used it successfully, I guarantee its works. Just make sure you keep it the right way around, even if it means sticking it to the floor. Also, you may use one for your window additionally, always keeping the APEX pointing inward and the SWORD pointing outward. That is very importing. Also, you can charge the Tetragrammaton with the mantra every few days to keep up the "blazing strength" of it! I hope this helps. Best regards, Shanti Monk...
1000 FT
HELLO ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY EXPERIENCE WITH YOU, I HAVE THESE HYPNAGOGIC INCIDENTS SINCE MY 14 AND IM 30 , USUALLY 1-2 TIMES PER WEEK , MY FIRST "TRIP" AS I CALL THEM WAS ABSOLUTE TERROR, I THOUGHT I WAS DYING , THE TYPICAL PHENOMENON AT MY TRIPS IS THAT I FEEL THAT MY SOUL RUNS WITH THE SPEED OF LIGHT IN SOME KIND OF TUNNEL IN THE SPACE AND A TERRIBLE 1000000 WATTS NOISE IS HEARD , I ALLWAYS PULL MY SELF BACK FM THAT ROAD CAUSE IM AFRAID ABOUT WHERE IT LEADS HOWEVER THE SINGLE TIME I FOUND THE COURAGE TO GO ALL THE WAY THE NOISE FADED AWAY THE BLACK TUNNEL WAS STARTING TO BECOME WHITE AND CLOUDY AND WHEN THE CLOUD DISSAPEARED I WAS AT 1000 FT LOOKING DOWN A WOOD OF PORCUPINE TREES BUT IT FELT I WAS IN A BIRD BODY OR SOMETHING AND IVE NEVER FELT THAT BEAUTIFUL IN MY LIFE , ALL THIS IN FULL CONSIOUSNES, I ALSO HAVE VERY OFTEN LUCID DREAMS WITHOUT HYPNAGOGIA , TAKE CARE BROTHERES AND SISTERS
THE OTHER SIDE???
Hi all
These are most of my experiences that I remember:
Every night just before I fall asleep I hear loud noises like cupboard doors slamming in the kitchen, crockery, pots and pans crashing to the floor, guns being fired, people talking in the next room, my name being called from afar.
Then I feel a force pulling me down through my bed, everything turns black and I am falling fast and while I am falling I feel lots of human arms/hands pulling me down into the darkness. This is very frightening and really scares me and I have to force myself back to reality (although I sometimes feel these experiences are quite real as I am not dreaming yet). I guess this is what is called the RABBIT HOLE experience.
At times I wake up choking and have to force air into my lungs. It believe it feels like drowning or being born. Believe me, this one is the most terrifying of them all because I always think I am dying when it happens.
One time I also saw the black figure in my room before falling asleep. I was totally awake then. It happened a few minutes after I turned off the light. I was also paralized, could not move, speak or breathe til it left the same way it entered my room... via the door. It was not walking it was floating very slowly.... it held an old fashioned candle holder with an almost burntout non lit white candle. It just stood there nexto my bed. I said the Lord's prayer and it left. I was able to move when it left. I slept with the light turned on the next week.
((You know when you are tired your eyelids feel heavy, you close it but you are still awake (or at least you believe you are because you can still open them at any time and see everything in your room)? Now this is then when it happens to me. When I force myself back from this noisy and falling experience all I have to do is force my eyelids open, then I will see my room again. I just think by myself: "open your eyes" and it works)).
At times after I closed my eyes I feel something small jumping onto my bed. I then open my eyes and my 2 little dogs are fast asleep, they fall asleep before me. Anyway, my poodle died a couple of years back in her cradle right next to my bed. That night I was sitting up with her for the whole night while balling my eyes out. I knew it was time because she was terminally ill and very old and she made me FEEL that it was her time. I made her a promise that she wont go alone that I will be holding and comforting her til she had gone. I did as I promised. Since then I always talk to her when I miss her too much. Twice I was lying in bed after closing my eyes with my arm hanging down the side and I feel her licking my hand like she used to. I open my eyes and the other two are still fast asleep like they were before I retired for bed.
I CAME TO MY OWN CONCLUSION THAT WHEN WE ENTER THESE "STATES" WE ACTUALLY ENTER THE PLANES OF "THE OTHER SIDE".
MAYBE THAT IS WHY SOME PEOPLE SEE AND HEAR ENTITIES COMMUNICATING WITH THEM.
MAYBE THE DEAD ARE PLAYING TRICKS ON US AND THINK THEY ARE MUCH TOO FUNNY.... LIKE THE ONE PERSON MENTIONED ABOVE ABOUT THE ENTITY ON HER BED SAYING "I GOT YOU!" BEFORE DISAPPEARING. SEEMS LIKE THEY LIKE TO PLAY HIDE AND SEEK WITH US.
MAYBE WHEN WE ARE IN THIS ALTER STATE THEY ARE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH US THEN. BECAUSE WHEN WE ARE TOTALLY NOT SLEEPING, WE ARE TOO BUSY DOING THIS OR THAT OR TOO BUSY THINKING, ETC, TOO BUSY TO HEAR THEM OR EVEN SEE THEM. SO, I CAME TO THE BELIEVE THAT "THAT" TIME IS NOT OUR TIME BUT THEIR TIME!!!!
I AM ALSO GOING TO TRY NOT TO BE AFRAID FROM NOW ON AS I THINK WHEN WE GET SCARED WHILE HAVING OUR EXPERIENCES, WE ARE VUNERABLE TO THE "BAD ONES" WHOM WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF US.
SO TONIGHT........ I WILL JUST GO WITH THE FLOW!!!!! see what lies beyond!
Have a gr8 day you all.
"States" and how you're mind reciprocates
I don't want to sound like I'm rebuking you but I feel that after 4 years of lucid dreaming and experiencing hypnagoia throughout, my experience and conclusions drawn provide a more accurate description of what we are experiencing.
Whatever part(s) of our mind that controls hypnagogia and/ or dreaming, the way it works is by simply reacting and reciprocating to our thoughts and emotions.
Have you ever had a dream where you suddenly felt that there was something threating RIGHT behind you? Only to turn around and see it there?
The only reason why there is something there is because thea idea pops into your head and you turn around in curiosity, in expectation. Your mind only responds to what you DO NOT DOUBT; your mind reciprocates with what you expect.
It may not be immediate, but that just shows how tricky the unconsciousness/subconsciousness is.
People believe that the 'astral plane' actually exists but they fail to recognize the similarity's it has with dreams - they are exactly the same source - just different sensations.
My first night-terror was similar to your 'black figure' experience - it was in 2007 before i had begun practicing lucid dreaming, I had just found out about the phenomenon of sleep paralysis and night terrors.
I was lying in my bed thinking "why cant I get to sleep????" when I rolled over to get into a more comfortable position when I saw an indian-looking man, fat and balding wearing long pants and a tucket-in button shirt. He walked into my room and past my bed and strangely I thought to myself
"I better fake-snore so that he thinks that I am sleeping..."
As soon as he was out of my sight (behind my head) I got that "..uh-oh...this is bad" feeling.
He leaned down on my bed next to my head and the bed began to sink down where his hands were, as if there was a black-hole/ worm-hole and eveything was being sucked down into that abyss.
It was terrifying, but as all of this was happening I realised:
"wait, he came into the room from a door that doesnt exist??????"
I immediately knew that this was sleep-paralysis, so I prayed and said "in Jesus name be gone!", everything faded away and I woke in my bed.
At the time I thought this was demons, but over these 4 years with lucid dreaming and more than 6 sleep-paralysis experiences and MANY hypnagogic hallucinations (visual and aural) my conclusions are simply that the minds ability to create seemingly independent characters (which we interpret to be real people - dead or on "astral travel") is far beyond our current comprehension.
Look up lucid dreaming - lucidipedia.com and on youtube.
God bless
Spiders and Hearing a Voice
This site and the posts are truly amazing. I can't imagine experiencing the unwelcome terrors that some people have written about here. However, I have read a few books on out-of-body traveling by individuals claiming to be able to control this experience and turn it into something positive. (?)
For myself I experienced seeing phantom spiders for a while when I was in my pre-teen years. I'm now 61. I finally got up the courage to quickly put my finger out to touch a spider on the mattress and realized, with relief, that it was more like something between dreaming and waking up and not real at all. The experience faded after that.
About seven years ago I was waking up in the morning on a Saturday when I heard a man's calm voice say in my ear, "439." Because I'd never heard voices before (or after), I thought it was significant. After consideration, I decided that such numbers might have to do with a website I had wherein I used a Banner Agent that would pay me for *hits* or whenever somebody visited. At the time I was obsessed with checking the numbers every day numerous times to see how many *hits* there were. A slow but steady increase occurred, never more than 20-30 in a day. Well, the hits on that Friday had been something like 300 and because the weekend visits always went down, I guessed that the 439 number might apply to Monday. I wrote down 439 and waited for Monday and checked stats all day. It was a very big reach to go to 439 and all day long on Monday it definitely didn't look possible. But there at the very end when I checked the very last count, it was 439! What a blast! Probably sounds stupid to other people because they didn't experience it. But for me it was my very own personal ESP experience that nobody can tell me didn't happen. :-)
I've had a couple other premonitions in my life: (1) One that may have saved my life (a body/sensory warning that called me to do an action I would never have otherwise taken that was within a WINDOW of 30 seconds); and (2) a dream foretelling facts to happen 2 days later although of complete silliness with no serious effect at all. If you want details, continue reading.
(1) I was a front seat passenger in a car accident wherein my seat broke away from the floor. The seat belt was secured to the floor and if I had not undone my seat belt within the previous 30 seconds I would have likely been squished. However, on an absolutely cold, rainy day I had grown boiling hot within a matter of seconds and even told myself that "somebody" wanted me to take off my coat. Although the car was stopped on a busy freeway for a jack-knifed truck it went against reason not to have the protection of my seat belt. However, I made a decision that "somebody" knew more than I did and therefore braced my legs and quickly undid the seat belt to take off my coat. Within 2 seconds we were hit from behind by a student driving on bald tires that couldn't stop in the rain. The impact was hard enough to throw the back end of the car high into the air causing my seat to break loose from the floor.
(2) I had a silly dream one night that James Garner the actor had decided to change his last name to "August" as in James August. In the next 2 days I happened to watch a program about one of the Caesar's who built a coliseum and because on its opening night in the month of *August* a comet flew overhead he was so self-impressed that he decided to change his name to Caesar Augustus. Well, I already said it was silly -- but the fact that I had previously dreamed about James Garner changing his name to James August did make it relevant for me.
experiences
I have also had similar experiences to certain people here. Very weird feeling. I get dragged. I can still hear everything going on around me like I am still in the room I was in.... and everytime this happens, there is a dark presence that seems to be the cause of it all. The second I see this thing...I instantly go limp and this thing has its grip on me. I get dragged from wherever I am, the couch, the bed, wherever. I am taken into this dark tunnel. I say the Lord's Prayer and it eventually stops. And the strange thing is when I "wake up" my lips are literally moving finishing the rest of the prayer from wherever I left off. It always seems like so much more than a dream, and why does it just go away when I pray?
Thank god I'm not alone!
I just heard the word Hypnagogic for the first time yesterday and have been reading on the internet all morning. Okay, well, reading all your posts makes me happy I am not alone/crazy etc, but OMG some of you have such frightening experiences !! Mine are never scary, just annoying as Iam tired everyday from being constantly wakened. I have them every nite. Voices I hear as clear as day, objects floating and just in my room. The weirdest thing is that (and it doesnt matter where I am... staying at a friends house, motel, even on a cruise ship last month, and of course in my bedroom in the various homes I have had) for some reason most all the activity is in the RIGHT CORNER of the room. When it's happening I have a very clear realization that there is a portal or some kind of opening in the right hand corner where these "people" (not really appearing in human form but I cant describe it) can enter into my room. They are not scary or doing me harm, they just come into my room each nite and it's always just random stuff that happens. It never even makes sense so it's hard to even describe. I am kinda excited now that I know what it's called and I can learn more. One thing that does work when I do it is right before I fall asleep, I say to God or "my spirits", or whatever you want to call them, "I do not want to have any episodes tonite. I want a full restful nights sleep please. Thank you" and believe it or not it works most of the time.
hynagogic?
i haven't really had the same experiences as everyone else where they feel like they're floating but i have had experiences where right before i fall asleep i hear a voice or voices, like last night i heard a older male voice say "goodnight" and it woke me up bc it was loud and it sounded like it was said right in my ear. am i the only one thats like this? is this hynagogic? is there something wrong with me? i just kinda need some answers, thanks.
thank you for this web site.
I really thought I was alone, I’ve been having a strange experiences, and thought that I was truly a freak.
Before I fall asleep, I would see things, people I don’t know, and things that had nothing to do with me.
I hear a loud buzzing, and my name being called.
Sometime it was like something jumped on my bed, and nothing did.
I can close my eyes, and see a room come in to focus.
There would be people there and I would talk to them.
I’m still the wake, I’m aware of what I’m doing.
We would have conversations, and they would ask me to look for things.
I’ve had the same thing happen several times, I would go back to the same room.
I think it’s really strange, that you can be still awake and have these things happen.
I wonder why I see these things. These people?
Suggestions for both explorers and sufferers of altered states
Hi,
I have been studying hypnogogia and related phenomena for 40 years both through personal experience and seeking theoretical understanding. In terms of understanding in my view the best book around is "The Ego Tunnel: The Science of the Mind and the Myth of the Self" by Thomas Metzinger (see here http://www.amazon.com/Ego-Tunnel-Science-Mind-Myth/dp/0465045677) - you can get an auditory version.
In terms of how to deal with the panic and "night terrors" (or incubus) that some people get when stuff like this happens to them then the best techniques are the same as those which are taught to people who have panic attacks. There is a load of stuff on this out there and it is good to get professional help. Having been a long term albeit very inconsistent meditator, what works for me is the ability to restrict attention to the breathing which even when you are "paralysed" (and thank god you are as if this brain switch which suspends active movement were not working you would sleep walk all the time)you can still move and focus your attention. If you have to, there is medication (usually diazapam i.e. valium) but preferably you can treat this as a great growth challenge like those heroes who have to learn to face the monster within.
There is indeed an new an interesting territory to explore here and either as a gateway to "spirituality" or to understanding the brain (or if you have an integral perspective (see www.integralinstitute.org) these are two sides (dual aspects) of the same coin as indeed the philosopher Spinoza said in regard to the relation between consciousness and matter (or mind and body).
my story...
I am 29 years old, and through out my life I've experienced these "episodes". For me these have always been terrifying.
It starts right before I fall profoundly asleep, and for some weird reason I feel as if I've provoke them, because I begin by feeling anxious and afraid of these nightmares and every single time I begin to feel this way and think about them before closing my eyes, I always undergo these "episodes".
They always start by me being elevated off my bed to the point of almost touching the ceiling of my room with the tip of nose. Then I am able to see my entire room, every single detail about it, my husband lying right next to me, everything the way it was right before i felt asleep.
Then my entire body begins to slowly spin around in the same paralyzed position, I begin to feel terrified as I am unable to control my body, inside my mind I am screaming for help, but I know my mouth is not moving, I know my husband cannot see me or hear me. As my body spins around faster and faster, I can even feel wind in my face, and I feel somebody or something is doing this to me. I feel a presence, I don't know what it is, I've never seen or even heard anyone else inside my room while I've experienced these things. But I can feel it, and I am so afraid.
I know I am "asleep" and I am begging myself to wake up, but I can't.
Until I finally wake up, gasping for air, terrified and sobbing.
I understand that this may sound like a complete joke, but unfortunately for me, this is not a joke! I feel that if I let this out and share my story then somehow I am finally accepting this and somehow will be able to control this and not feel afraid anymore.
Thanks for listening...
Re: My Story
My experience of hypnogogia is very similar to yours. I had frequent episodes in my 30's, but, thankfully, rarely have one now. (At the time, my sleep was frequently disrupted, which I believe contributes to the problem.) My episodes usually began with the sense of a profoundly evil presence standing behind me on my left side. Next, I felt my body rise from the bed and either spin in place or be propelled at a high speed throughout the house. One time I felt as if I had been dropped back onto the bed from a height of several feet and was amazed to see my husband sleeping peacefully beside me.
The episodes I experienced were terrifying in themselves, but the profoundly evil "presence" left me feeling as if I had been briefly possessed. The few people I talked to about these episodes had no idea what I was talking about. I can easily understand why some people interpret these episodes as true possession or abduction because they feel so real.
Learning about hypnogogia helped me greatly. What a relief to learn that others experience similar episodes! I have learned to use lucid dreaming techniques to control the terror and content associated with my hypnogogic episodes. You might do some research into that area.
Please be comforted in knowing that you are not alone. The fear you experience feels horribly real, but knowing that you have a sleep disorder should help a little. I know it helped me. You may want to consult a sleep specialist, but I would make sure they are familiar with hypnogogia or sleep paralysis. There may be medications or helpful techniques they know to help you.
I wish you the best of luck with this miserable affliction. I hope your episodes diminish with time and intensity.
SLEEP PARALYSIS
I TOO HAVE THIS SLEEP PARALYSIS AND PERSONALLY I FIND IT QUITE ANNOYING BUT ALSO QUITE INTERESTING.... I HAVE FELT THE PRESENCE, I HAVE HEARD FOOTSTEPS UP STAIRS WALKING AROUND ON MY HARD WOOD FLOOR WHEN IM LYING PARALYSED IN MY BED..NOT ALL MY EXPERIENCES HAVE BEEN SCARY...I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS..HOPEFULLY SOMEONE OUT THERE CAN HELP ME BECAUSE EVERYONE I TELL THINKS IM NUTS!!!!!! I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS EVER TRIED TO TALK TO THE SO CALLED PRESENCE...DID ANYONE EVER THINK IT IS OUR FEAR OF WHAT IS HAPPENING TO US AT THAT MOMENT THAT IS CREATING FEARFUL ENERGY AT THAT MOMENT..WHAT IF WE TRIED TO FILL THE ROOM WITH LOVE INSTEAD OF FEAR..WHAT IF ITS REALLY OUR GAURDIAN ANGEL BUT BECAUSE WE ARE SO FEARFULL AT THAT MOMENT MAYBE ITS CHANGING THE ENERGY LEVELS..I JUST DONT KNOW WHERE TO GO,WHO TO TALK TO PLS ANYBODY ANSWER ME.
I ALSO WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS HEARD...PEOPLE TALKING..ONE TIME I WAS LAYING THERE AND I HEARD ONE MAYBE 2 GUYS TALKING..I WASNT AFRAID OF THE VOICE.. IT SOUNDED FAMILIAR TO ME..AND THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE ROOM...AGAIN I WAS FROZEN.
Being someone else?
When I was little, I remember I was staying at my dad's house. And I remember being in my room while I went to sleep, but I had a "dream" of me laying in my dads bed, seeing the alarm clock, looking around and seeing everything in perfect detail. even the tv was on. But I knew something was wrong, and I had a BAD feeling. I started screaming and trying to talk and move and I couldnt. Somehow I woke up and ran to my dads room to find every little detail I just dreamed about in the room to be EXACT, even to the clothes that were scattered on the floor or the pillows in a exact position, the time was exact and the tv was replaying EXACTLY what I had just seen. But, my Dad was sleeping EXACTLY where I had been "sleeping" in my dream. He woke up to hearing me run in there freaking out. I know it sounds weird, but I feel like I was in my dad's mind before he woke up scared because he heard something crash through his room (me).
I always thought it was a weird dream, until this morning:
I took my brother to school, ate something, got in bed and tried to go back to sleep. In my dream everything is normal, i'm at work at whatnot...well then chaos happens. And the weird thing is, i'm saying to myself "WAKEUP!" and I couldnt! I knew something was wrong in my dream, and couldn't CONTROL myself in my dream. And I knew it, and I wanted to wake up. So in my dream, I "woke" myself up, (I was still dreaming) and somehow i'm standing outside my house and see my mom run up to me holding a baby saying someone is breaking in the house and shes scared. and then agian, I start screaming to myself (WAKEUP!!!!!!!!!!!!) I wake up "again", and im in my room. And this time I think i'm actually awake, and im not. Im scrambling to my door trying to turn my light on and I have NO control over my body, like its paralyzed. Im having to SLING myself around in my dream, I crash into my entertainment center and im like reaching for the light and I turn it on...
AND I ACTUALLY WAKEUP. I sit straight up BREATHLESS. and I realize that I actually AM awake... I hope. and I look over and theres DVD;s scattered all over my floor.??????????????
I dont know whats going on, but reading other people's stories helps calm me.
On hearing voices
Greetings, all.
I thought I'd share my experience with everyone, and maybe offer a slightly different perspective of hypnagogia. The way I see it, this is not a "disorder", not by far. And here's why.
For the last year and a half, I've had various 'episodes' where I'd hear voices (sometimes people I know, sometimes complete strangers) right before falling asleep. I didn't give it much thought at first, until I realized that some of these voices actually made sense.
I 'heard' my father telling me not to worry for him, and he later told me that in-person with almost the same words. This was the only occurence of supposed 'clairvoyance', so I'll just say it was a coincidence.
The names I've 'heard', however, are definitely NOT a coincidence. More than once, I 'heard' names of people or places which I had never, ever glimpsed before (trust me, I have the memory of an elephant). I was very surprised upon researching online, that not only did these people or places exist, but the names I 'heard' were VERY specific.
For example: when I lived abroad, I woke up with a title in mind. I Googled it and found that it was a musical piece by a very obscure composer. The university he'd graduated from was a mere half an hour away from where I lived, and they were having an "open campus day" in the following week. I didn't go, but I can't keep from wondering what would've happened if I did.
At any rate, I'm not scared of this. I don't know what to make of it, either. For now, I'll just deal with these episodes as they come.
Auditory Hypogogia
A few months ago, I was falling asleep, and I realized I was hearing a slew of voices, all loud, and it sounded like they were shouting. It woke me up more, and I shrugged it off and tried to go to sleep. But it happened again right away, and I was scared. I sat up and bed and tried to process what just happened: Was I hearing voices? Were they real? Am I mentally ill?
Last night, I was laying on my couch, and it happened again. This time, there didn't seem to be as many voices at once, and they didn't seem like they were yelling. I realized right away it was a man's voice. I can't remember what was said anymore, but it wasn't angry: it was more along the lines of "did I turn off the dishwasher?" I repeated it aloud, maybe to retain what was said. Then I started to doze off, and I heard a woman's voice. Same thing, talking about inane things, not directed at me. Then a child's voice. I repeated each thing that was said, but I wasn't scared this time around.
After reading comments on this site, I realized I've had the paralysis happen to me since I was a child--times when I felt like I was weightless and floating while getting close to sleeping, and that I couldn't move, but I never felt trapped. It never scared or alarmed me. I just assumed everyone had that happen to them.
Great to read other experiences. I actually am excited about it and hope that it happens again.
im 15 years old with possible hypnagogia?
so to start off im 15 years old at the moment and i just found this site by chance. luckily tho, i dont have something like a doctors approval that im paranoid schizophrenic but ive researched all about it and i have evrything occuring to me. ( always looking back , the feeling of someone always staring at me etc..)
about 10 years ago so i was approx. 5-6 years of age, i was lieng down on the couch and the couch is like up against a wall and the wall goes down and turn into the corridor anyways, back then one of the first movies of freddy Kruger was out and i was terified by it, anyways while i was looking around all of a sudden i saw the exact detailed freddy kruger with his head and claws stiking out of the corridor and smiling at me, i was so terrified i ran into the kitchen crying to my mum and they didnt beleive me.
anyways, coupla years later this time im in my bed, woke up in the morning and like fully woken up (not that dreamy state) and i saw 2 hands that looked very ugly grabbed my bed from the bottom and tried dragging me down and all of a sudden it vanished and when i looked under my bed there was nothing there.
few months later, at night i woke up while evryone else was asleep ( i usually always wake up several times during the night even now) and just to mention that my parents room and my sisters room is right next to me and right across me with just a corridor. anyways i was waken up by a voice and i was in a paralysed state i couldnt move and couldnt scream even tho my mouth was moving i didnt hear anything come out i was for some reasing, coughing so loudly i dont know why but i just was and the coughing was so different it was so loud like a very loud scream, and i was coughing like that for several minutes and neither one of my parents woke up.
i still live with paranoid schizophrenia as much as im concerned i dont tell my parents but its very very annoying and at times scary, is there a way to stop these from occuring?
sincerely, sinz.
Hypnagogia or demons
Ok i am 15 years old and i have experienced hypnagogia since i can remember but the scariest time was when i was eleven. Before i fell asleep i remember my brother went into the living room to watch a movie and i was all the way accross the house reading in my bedroom, well i fell asleep with the light on and woke up with it off after feeling something evil was with me, i was right, i heard my name wispered in my window and i looked and saw a pale, pale white face looking at me and i panicked and tryed to scream but i couldn't and in the blink of an eye a demon thing that had jet black hair and a long flowing black dress was on my bed looking at me and in a way i pulled the cover trying to get under it and it got to the end of my bed and started pulling on my feet, i felt the coldest chill ever run up my body and i couldn't move it was like i was paralyzed as i tried to scream for my brother i had no voice or movement but i could here my brother all the way on the other side of my house and it kept pulling me farther DOWN, DOwn, down to my closet and i started praying for god to help me please dont let whatever it was kill me and somehow i got my voice and screamed a blood boiling scream and my brother came and turned on the light and when he pulled the cover from my fingers he said i was pale and asked if the cat ran into my closed (our cat is black like the dress-coincidence? or not?) and i told him what happened and to this day no-one believes me not even him he said it sounded like a nightmare but it only happens when i fall asleep so tell me fellow hypnagogers is it hypnagogia or is it demons following us.
Hypnaogia more likely than demons
Hi, I've had a lot of experience in sleep paralysis/ night terrors and hypnagogia.
I've had similar kinds of experiences with 'evil presences' so I relate to the feeling of those dreams/ hypnagogic hallucinations.
I have been practicing lucid dreaming for 4 years now and have seen the intimate connection between hypnagogia and sleep paralysis.
Form your description, you probably had a brief episode of hypnagogia, which quickly transcended into a dream - this is not my "theory" of what happened, I suggest this as being the MOST LIKELY probablity because I have lucidly experienced such transitions.
Hypnagogia is literally the fence between being "awake"/ conconscious yet not dreaming and REM sleep (rapid-eye-movement sleep which is equivalent to dream sleep).
I suggest you look up what lucid dreaming is about -try out lucidipedia.com and check out his (Tim Post) videos on youtube. Building up knowledge and skill in lucid dreaming is the best bet against these kinds of things because if it ever happens again, you will already have such a large bank of understanding of these things that you'll either be able to fight them off and win or just force yourself to wake up.
God bless
hypnagogia
I have read many of these stories on this site and feel as though I have experienced some of the same things.When I start to fall asleep,sometimes I see people or bugs. They seem VERY real. I try to touch them occasionally,but then they vanish. I work third shift and sleep during the day. I keep my room VERY dark so I can sleep. when I "see" the people or the bugs, I realize that even if they were really there, I wouldn't be able to see them anyway because of the darkness.But that doesnt always stop me from believing they are absolutely real.
I also hear voices before I go to sleep sometimes. It always sounds like a radio or a newscast but I cant really make out what is being said. A bit creepy sometimes.
Learn to Control It
I have experienced many of these symptoms for most of my life... as long as I can remember actually. I would recommend to anyone else experiencing this to keep researching as there are ways to control it and to "take back control" of yourself.
One thing that I found really helped was to use brainwave entrainment products such as binaural beats before I went to sleep at night in order to essentially "control" what frequency my brain was experiencing. Just a thought that others may want to try.
I Am 15 years old and I am
I Am 15 years old and I am experiencing these paralyzing dreams. I am native american so part of me does believe in things like witches and things of that nature because I've had werid things happen to me and my family and recenlty I did stop believing in Christ now I do believe but after reading these other peoples comments I don't feel it is anything supernatural. It might be the stress Mid-terms are finally over and I forgot to study for some so I don't know how I did.
I'm not the most easily scared guy but about a year ago I had this dream where I woke up and couldn't move. Then out of the shadows of my room a guy jumps on to my bed bends down on top of me ( while this is happening I try to move and scream ) and tell me "Don't Do That Again!." I thought I was crazy and never told anyone about that until recently I told my best friend. Also I am going Christmas shopping with my parents and sister two days ago and they ask me if I want to go into JCPennys with them, I was tired so I said No. In the car I lay down and try to fall asleep or so I thought. I was actully sleeping but I didn't know it so I sat there paralyzed and I herd this ringing sound and I felt vibrations all over my body and it felt like they were in my brain. If I started to breathe regulary and tried to get calm then it would go away but if I held my breathe then it would get worse ( note this was in the middle of the day ) so in my dream I sat up tried to look in the front mirrot of the car to see if my eyes were red and my vision went irregular then I layed back down and it happened again until I herd the foot steps of my family.
Later that night I kept having these dreams that I couldn't move and something was doing this to me , like an evil spirit, and In my dream I thought of the exorcist girl tightly bear hugging me and she was laying right next to me in my bed laughing. even tonight I thought she came back but I realized it was nothing and began to shake my arms this happened after I had a dream of me going home late at night after hanging out with friends and after I got unparalyzed I ran to tell my mom about what happened ( in the dream ) and it was late at night all the lights were on and I run into their room and my sister is sleeping on the floor my mom is half way in her bed her head was on the ground and legs still in the bed and my dad was just laying there. My mom told me something and I woke up from my dream saying "WHAT?!?" pretty loud. I have always been kinda paranoid but this is driving me insane I feel as if I am being watched even as I am typing this. When I woke up for real tonight I seen that I was only a sleep for an hour but it felt like forever.
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You are okay sweetie. You just have to remember that this is only a dream. There is actually nothing evil or malevolent about it. It is only your imagination running wild as everyone's does during regular dreams. Did you know that you can change the outcome of these hypnagogic episodes??? You can, all you have to do is tell yourself that it is not real, urge yourself to wake up, or begin praying. I have heard of incidents where as soon as people begin praying they become awake with their lips still in mid-prayer. Ask God to help you dear. He is the One who really can.
dreams
Hi, I read your post on the hypnagogia site. I have had dreams my whole life since I was very young. I understand every single detail that you are talking about. From my experience these dreams can be frightening and very very real. In some cases my dreams have become real, days and years later. I have been attacked in my dreams, and I have a lot to say about it. If you are interested, or have an questions about what you are experiencing I may be able to help. BTW, I am a youth pastor. I accepted Christ as my savior years ago.
Sincerely
Youth Pastor Drew
curious
i was wondering...
im sure it is hypnagogia
but still feel i should put my two cents into this
anywho
i am 18, and since i was 10 or so, ive had lucid dreams
and hpynagognia even when i get full hours of sleep..
even sometimes thru out my day, i will ahve breif hypnagognia
where i will become confused, ..
once i was awake, but my eyes were still closed, and i had my television on, it was a comedy chanel and the night before i had watched the same one that was replying as i was awakening..well with my eyes closed i saw the special..from memory..just by knowing his voice, i had very clear colorful images right before my closed eyes..only difference was he was in an astronauts outfit and the set he was standing behind was red and different
when i opned my eyes i was confused ...i opened my eyes because the fact that he was in an astronauts outfit made no sense
but when i opened my eyes he was not..so it took a moment but i realized it was a dream..
how could i dream, but still be awake, just with my eyes closed?
i thought hypnagogia was only before u fall asleep or as u wake up with open eyes?
can you still have your eyes closed and have hypnagogia.
liek i did, but the sound u hear be real
can hpynagogia interact with reality.?
that is just one of the many odd things that have happened to me
like seeing people in distances who when i turn back are gone.
ever since i was 10
hear my name beign called if im tired ....hearing songs playing ...fragments ..loud loud music
i have possible bipolar 1 or 2...i kno that can cause this..
jsut wondering if im alone or not?
or how i cry every night when i see the moon or stars...i look up and feel empty..not that i feel small or that the unvierse is so big i feel little..not that old bag of non sense..no it is more like i feel like im missing out m that im not where i am supposed to be..im nto saying im from outer space, just that...im not doing something i need to be doing..and the more time i spend not doing it the worse i feel.
i get paranoia
i have an underactive thyroid, but the last time i went for blood work it was gone
which cant happen soo i was puzzled and the doctor was so confused
so i get blood work every few months..and still no underactive thyroid
the doctor thinks i might not have bipolar...but it feels like i do...i mean i dnt meet the criteria for her diagnosis
cyclothymia..but for bipolar i meet the criteria...and people i kno who do have it..act just like me..soo its odd..
cause they have bipolar..and sometimes im worse then them..and my mom told me that my brother who has it and my sister who has cyclothymia..were nothing like me..im much worse.
plus i am 18 and she cant diagnose me with cyclothymia if it hasnt been 2 monitored years of symmtoms..and i only saw her twice so far.
all a few weeks ago
and the seroquel xr 50 mg i am on...is making me manic..giving me chest and heart pains and i feel sick alot..and im paranoid and hyper.. and i just get so mad..and its just for my sleep insomnia
so i am really confused
and she tells me this is normal..when so many medical sites tell me i shuldnt b getting these side effects and people whove had it who i kno did not get these side effects
there is sooo much mroe to tell you but im gunna stop here
so what do you think?
(ive had minor psychosis but she still believes i am cyclthomic)
Sane
Dude, you are sane and over 18 now so you can stop these doctors from poisoning you with their meds. If you keep taking them, you will eventually loose all your sanity and the possibility of establishing a good conscious relationship with your psyche. Explore the things you see, hear, sense. Write them down in a journal. They are for you to better understand the nature of your unconscious. Good luck.
Going through the rabbits hole
Reading all of these descriptions really helped me, and each one is so unique, I figure I would add my own so if anyone is going through a hard time maybe this would ease their minds.
I have had this happen a few times, but il describe the sensations that occur most every time. My thoughts will be running free as im drifting asleep. Then my attention will get fixed on something. It will be a small ball of flashing light. The ball will start flashing more and more intensely until it feels like it has consumed my consciousness (for lack of better explanation.
If I her a sound it will do the same thing in the way of starting out low, but then it will grow in volume and intensity over time.
Lately I have experienced traveling through a tunnel. Il be traveling through it, and vivid lucid images will wither be shooting at me as im going through it, or il see a super vivid image at the end of the tunnel. Its not like imagining something, this feels like im really looking at a real object.
Il have a very real fear of death as this is happening. I don't know what’s going on so I just assume it’s a seizure and that if I don't stop it il die. My body will be paralyzed, and by forcefully willing some part of it to move il shake myself out of it.
I been studying meditation a lot lately etc, and I learned the concept of none resistance. One time I just let this feeling take over me and I figured il just follow it 100% where it takes me. At the end of it I experienced what Buddhist would call a brief enlightenment. All my thoughts secede and my brain stopped thinking. All I had was an understanding of consciousness. The best way I can describe it is that usually I live in a pretty fragmented reality, where my consciousness jumps between my thoughts and what’s happening. I have a mental interpretation of everything. But after this all the interpretations were off, and I had a brief moment of just vivid consciousness.
I just had a episode tonight but I was way to terrified to let it run its course. I live alone and no matter what I cant shake the feeling like im going to die, or like I might do something that I cant reverse later.
Awesome to know others are experiencing this to!
Controlling this change of states
many have experienced these effects as cited here, me too to an extent. I have been looking into control of the change in states as one falls asleep reaches alpha, delta...
the people frightened by this effects, understandably, could look at brain entrainment, brain music if you will as one accesses these states to minimize detrimental effects long term. I'd be interested in any studies disproving or proving effects to share with my readers.
I'm experiencing the same
I'm experiencing the same thing. I can go to sleep at night and as soon as I go to sleep, it feels like I am flying. Somtimes it feels like I am falling. Other instances I have though I was awake but I don't be. I have fought it in my sleep, trying to wake up but can't, then I would wake up. I have heard noises in my sleep, like radios, or the t.v. being on. I am just glad I am not the only one experiencing these things. It doesn't happen often, but when it does it's scary. Also, I would like to know if anyone out there experience looking at clocks, and everytime it's the same time. It's like dajavue. Everytime I look at a clock it has the same time 9:11. Almost everytime I wakeup or I can be doing something. If you've experienced this please let me know.
You shoul brainstorm and
You shoul brainstorm and write down all the things that come to your mind when you think of 9:11. Write everything down, sensical or not (better if not). From that list of things, brainstorm about the ones that you have stronger feelings about. Your unconscious is trying to tell you something about yourself, and you need to bring it to consciousness (ie become aware of it). Good luck!
hypnagogic hallucinations
Hello.
I totally agree with you. This is indeed a terifiying experience.
I am a swedish woman, age 67, who have had these experiences from time to time ever since I was a child, and lately, thanks to the Internet, I finally found the answer.
No doctor has been able to help or even explain it to me, and for many years I really believed I was crazy and alone.
My advise to you is, if possible, instead of fighting it, try to relax as best as you can when you feel these hallucinations occur, and you will snap out of it quicklier.
I hope you will find your method to cope.
Sincerly
Maria Forsberg Blomgren
Hearing things!
Right before I fall asleep I start hearing things like:Beep sounds,voices,dog barks,music,someone saying something,my name called out by weird voice and other weird things,but it doesn't happen too much and it never happens when I'm awake. Am I crazy or is it Hypnagogia?
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