The Effects of Hallucinogenic Drugs on The Brain
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The Effects of Hallucinogenic Drugs on The Brain
Alicia Ebbitt
Hallucinnogenic Drugs alter a person's perceptions of reality and may cause hallucinations and other alterations of the senses. Drugs classified as hallucinogens include: LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide), 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methylamphetime(DOM), N,N-dimethyltrptamine(DMT), psilocin, and mescaline. There are two aspects of these drugs that classify then as hallucinogens. They all have common side effects, including distortion of sensory perception, and other psychic and somatic effects. These drugs also exhibit cross-tolerance. This means that a user of hallucinogenic drugs develops a higher tolerance to hallucinogens, the more they are used and the shorter the time span is between the last usage.Hallucinogenic drugs have been used throughout history for a number of reasons. They have been used as medicinal agents as well as having served religious purposes. Hallucinogens such as mescaline have been used in Native American ritual ceremonies. There was extensive usage of hallucinogens in the 60's and 70's as part of the counter- culture hippie movement. During the "acid tests" of this era, hallucinogenic drugs were used for mind exploration (B.L. Jacobs, "How Hallucinogenic Drugs Work").
Hallucinogenic drugs cause both physical and psychological effects on humans. The physical effects of these drugs include: dilated pupils, elevated body temperature, increased heart rate and blood pressure, appetite loss, sleeplessness, tremors, headaches, nausea, sweating, heart palpitations, blurring of vision, memory loss, trembling, and itching. A user of hallucinogenic drugs will also experience a number of psychological alterations in the brain. These drugs may cause hallucinations and illusions as well, as the amplification of sense, and the alterations of thinking and self-awareness. It is quite possible to have a bad reaction to hallucinogenic drugs. This is referred to as a "bad trip" and may cause panic, confusion, suspicion, anxiety, and loss of control. The long-term effects of these drugs can be quite dangerous. These long-term effects may include: flashbacks, mood swings, impaired thinking, unexpected outbursts of violence and eventually possibly depression that may lead to death or suicide.
Quite a lot of interest concerning hallucinogens has been generated by neurobiologists and other scientists. The effects that hallucinogenic drugs have on the brain are quite complicated and very interesting. Many users of hallucinogenic drugs have experienced whole personality changes which raises questions about the relationship between brain and behavior. Scientists are also curious as to how total alterations of the senses can occur as the result of hallucinogen usage. Many people that have used hallucinogens claim to have "seen sounds" or "heard colors". Scientists ask questions such as: How can a person under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs see things that aren't there? or How do flashbacks work? Another aspect of hallucinogenic drugs that interests scientists is that they are psychomimetic meaning that they mimic certain aspects of psychosis. Through the use of hallucinogenic drugs, one can induce temporary symptoms of psychosis.
As a result of the great interest in hallucinogens, many years of research have been done to try and determine exactly how the brain is affected by these drugs. Scientists have tried to determine if there is a specific site in the brain where hallucinogens act. This has been difficult to determine. Scientists still are unable to answer all questions about hallucinogenic drugs. However they have been able to determine certain areas of the brain that these drugs do act upon.
Early on in the reasearch on hallucinogens, it was determined that hallucinogenic drugs structurally resemble serotonin (5-HT) Serotonin is found in specific neurons in the brain that mediate chemical neurotransmission in the brain. Neurons containing serotonin can be found in the brain stem section of the brain. Axons of serotonergic neurons project to almost every part of the brain, affecting and communicating with all sections of the brain. Serotonin also acts at many receptor areas of neurons. Because hallucinogenic drugs are structurally similar to serotonin, it was theorized that hallucinogenic drugs may act upon serotonergic neurons (B.L. Jacobs, "How Hallucinogenic Drugs Work").
Scientists began to carefully study the serotonin system and found out that hallucinogens do in fact have some kind of effect on serotonin. Hallucinogenic drugs cause an increase in the level of brain serotonin, but they inhibit the rapid firing of neurons containing serotonin. This is a negative feedback system in which as the serotonin level rises, the activity of serotonergic neurons decreases. It was originally theorized that this effect of hallucinogenic drugs directly caused sense alteration and hallucinations. Several observations however have shown this theory not to be true. These observations include the following: Low doses of LSD effect behavior, but do not depress firing of serotonergic neurons, The behavioral effects of LSD outlast the alteration of the firing of the serotonergic neurons, Repeated dosage of LSD results in a decrease of behavioral changes, but still effects neuron firing, Other hallucinogens do not affect serotonergic neurons, When serotonin levels are depleted, the effectiveness of LSD is not eliminated (Ian Leicht, "Postulated Mechanisms of LSD").
It has now been determined that the effects of hallucinogenic drugs are actually caused by the effects that hallucinogenic drugs have on the post-synaptic activity of serotonergic neurons. Hallucinogenic drugs directly affect the serotonin receptors(specifically the serotonin receptor subtype, 5-HT2), which is what eventually results in a complex pattern of action potentials and activity. This was proven by the fact that the depletion of serotonin levels in animals does not result in a decrease of behavioral effects caused by hallucinogenic drugs (B.L. Jacobs, "How Hallucinogenic Drugs Work").
Hallucinations and other effects of hallucinogens are however very complicated experiences. They are not simply a part of a cause and effect system in the brain, where hallucinogenic drugs act on serotonin and cause hallucinations. Instead, hallucinogenic drugs act initially on the serotonin system, which sends into motion, a pattern of complex action potentials and activity. Other neurotransmitters may be involved in these activities as well. The effects that inputs and outputs have on each other in this system as well as the pattern of action potentials mediated by hallucinogenic drugs help to cause many of the complex changes that allow hallucinations to happen. (B.L. Jacobs, "How Hallucinogenic Drugs Work") Scientists continue to do research to determine the exact effects that hallucinogens have on the serotonin receptors and to answer any questions that they cannot yet answer.
WWW Sources
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Comments made prior to 2007
When you list the drugs in the beginning of your article you list lsd psilocin and mescaline. But "psilocin" is not actually the active ingredient in hallucinogenic mushrooms. The correct term is "Psilocybin". Just thought I'd point that out ... Daniel, 19 February 2007
PEOPLE!!! DRUGS R STILL
PEOPLE!!! DRUGS R STILL ILLEGALL! I THINK ITS PRETTY DAMNED RIDICULOUS THAT U WOULD RISK YOUR LIFE AND YOUR HOME JUST TO GET A HIGH! REALYY!!!!!
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you have a very myopic grasp of the issue at hand. People aren't really outward bound in a singular fashion towards the singular ideology that they can "catch a buzz," in the sense of the use of hallucinogenics. The matter is far more complex. People use this class of drug for psychological purposes as well as for religious reasons be it cultural or spiritual and also for the expansion of the intellectual quest for greater understanding. In either event, this quest generally involves a deeper understanding of one's purpose, comprehension or place in the sector at hand. You can't really walk in ham-handed as a johnny-come-lately with this casual observer effect and think that you have an overstanding of the subject matter. Perhaps you should try to learn more about the topics on which you converse prior to attempting a place in the conversation.
Hello, I've done a lot of
Hello, I've done a lot of research and am debating whether to try mushrooms. I do drink, and smoke pot occasionally though not often. I hear theres no seriouse effects except that you get flashbacks. Is there a chance of getting flashbacks and other seriouse effects from just trying it once or twice?
trust me the long term
trust me the long term effects still get me now. im 16 and ive gotten high of stuff like than sinceabout 14.. i alomst died twice loosing to much oxygen to my brain and ive learned my lesson and thankful for my life.
shrooms
dude, personally i geeked the fuck out, only did it once and only once.. I was, at first, really giggly in an uncontrolable way, then i started feeling real wavy..like everything was pulsating sort of, then i started seeing colors and began to feel really scared of everything and everyone..esp when it got dark, i could not be outside because it was to intense:car lights, street lights everything is just so different.. dude its like nothing ive ever expereinced..think of a crazy dream being live in front of you..i had a bad trip, it was like it was cool and not all at once.. ill never do it again but it felt like it was a good expereince to go through.. i felt like i was reborn again wen i sobered up. i got thoughts like the feeling that i was never going to be the same again, and suicide thoughts to sometimes, at the time you feel as if you will be like this forever.. but no nothing like alcohol or pot dude .. say more intense..you might have a different trip.. the whole time your trying to fugure out what the purpose and the meaning of life are and mean.. thas all u care about, along with feeling scared and geeked..
Yep The first time i did
Yep The first time i did shrooms i didnt have any bad trips but jus make sure ur in a good mood with people u like..
hallucinogens
hallucinogens can be very bad for your body because it effect your brain and it could effect your stomach,lungs,heart and it could even let u die for everything that u have so don't let hallucinogens get in the way .... u have a life one life on ENJOY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BE HAPPY AND ENJOY YOUR LIFE TRUST ME ENJOY IT!!!!!!!!!!!
Long term effects of acid overdose
It is with interest that I read the article 'The Effects of Hallucinogenic Drugs on the Brain' by Alicia Ebbitt. The question I have is whether flashbacks will stay with you for life in the event of a major overdose. In my case I overdosed on acid/speed 31 years ago, was institutionalised for 6 months and regularly experienced flashbacks for 2 years, always enhanced by smoking cannabis or taking over the counter drugs. 24 months ago my GP prescrbed a certain tranquiliser for depression which led to a full blown flashback including hallucinations ater just taking 2 capsules and was brought under control with drugs surpressing excessive serotin levels. I have also suffered asymptiomatic congestive heart failure at the age of 49, can this be attributed to the acid overdose? Clinical opinions will be appreciated
MDMA
You all should just do some molly. honestly its the best damn thing. bout 20 a tenth, do a couple you'll love everyone and everything in the whole world. ive had my fair share of trips and smoking and coke and pills. i still am 100% down for DMT tho
WTF
I have tried like...everything and im only 15, suree i do have weirde things goin on sometimes, like i have flash backs, my dreams are like super fucked up.
but it may like depend on your age, size, the way your body is etc.
but hey its just a theory.
To Put It All to Rest
I personally have tried several hallucinogens, and as many have already said, they are tools, very powerful tools. They do help gain understanding, but can have negative effects, which i think arises from fear conjured by people who have no or limited experience. Yes, there are those who are convinced the governemnt is after them or that aliens stole their mind, but these are cases where 100% of the time the vessel taken was for only recreational purposes i.e. "Lets see some crazy shit" and take way, WAY too much.
If you are curious and willing to try set up your journey beforehand with some nice music, a big bag of the diggity-dank, and most importantly A QUESTION. If you hear countless stories of insight, understanding, universal connection (you'll know what i mean), and glorious,beneficial insight do you think everyone is just making it up? Is it some kind of conspiracy? or are you being hypocritical, are you out of touch with the "real" world, and this doesnt extend to all these 15, 16, 18 year old kids looking for the next high, yeah they use drugs as an escape, but it doesnt mean all people do. They should really be more intelligent and wait for these kinds of things, the brain undergoes critical continuous development until around age 24, so even a 21 year old celebrating his birthday is destroying his brain, and which do you think happens more?
And as for the all-drugs-make-you-retarded-and-ruin-your-life terrorists, because by definiton thats what you are, using fear to manipulate and force aquiescence to your opinion, look at that way the arguments are formulated, the pro and anti hallucinogens all over this page, and tell me who looks more intelligent.
FYI I do not ever approve of cognitive destroying chemicals such as amphetamines(yes that includes extacy), cocaine, opiates, or alcohol and you can also see the negative effects of these on this page from confessors.
I hope you see truth in my words and take warnings and my respects to heart
Peace,and i do mean that with all my soul
Fiendpriest
Who ever u are i absolutely
Who ever u are i absolutely agree with all ur words..
Voices....
LSD is not the answer,
extreme sports are.
**** drugs, **** gambling, **** being a waster.
Simple.
Do martial arts, skate, surf, board, fire poi, motorbikes...
NATURAL ADRENALINE JUNKIES, the best people in the world
- its the only answer to get away from those circles, cos when you leave the circle and look in, ask yourself what your friendship really means with your junkie mates- set an example and help bail them out.
theres an exception...
yes maybe those can be enjoyable but u cant use those activities to open Ur mind or have a great experience that u have never had before.
i say maybe there worth a shot. I'm only 15 and i smoke pot and drink and i think saliva cause this one experience changed my life.
but gave me extreme enlightenment on the world, universe and soul
there's so much to explore...
I've meditated many time for long periods prior to my strong life changing experience and i have a clear pleasant outlook on life and the universe and i also lost my fear of dying cause there's so much beyond this world so its up to u..
To All
I have a brother who is loosing his mind from doing drugs as a kid, it may not effect you now, but it will later. He talks to himself, is paraniod about everything, and is now looking at time in the mental hospital. It will come back to haunt you. To those of you who are considering METH, I have a friend who was very attractive when she was young and got into meth, years later she lost her hair, teeth, mind, and looks like she is 50 and she is not even 40. I also have an ex-boyfriend that used to smoke meth and started having sezures all the time and would whip it out and piss in public and not even be aware of what he was doing, he was also using LSD and would call me to pick him up, because he was to high to drive. All drugs will effect you in the future whether or not you believe it will. Take it from me, it's not worth it. I get high off adrenaline, the natural way.
you cannot comprehend...
has anyone ever thought about what actually happens in a trip?
i know noone here can completely remember the mind blowing orgasims of self realization that you go through when you take it
i believe when you do acid or mushrooms your unconsous mind blows you into non existance, your mind goes through and understands what the truth of the world, of everything, and what it is to existance is... what is existance? think of nothing existing, can you understand what it is to not exist? to not have any thoughts, to not be... anything... the human mind cannot comprehend non existance because it exists, when you do lsd or mushrooms your mind gots into a different state of mind, one where everything is possible and everything makes sense, you understand everything, the world, existance, it all blows into your mind... as you come down you remember less and less because you are coming back into reality...
this is my own theory... i could go on for days... i have never done acid or shrooms, i cannot get my hands on those... my experience comes from marijuana, as you would see when i say everything makes sense... i want to see a higher level, i want to trip, i am loosing my mind, noone i know understands or thinks of the world in the way i do, but when i tell them my thoughts their eyes open wide... when im high with my friends i take them to different worlds, i explain to them what they are experiencing and they understand... although when they sober up they go back to existance...
as you might tell i lothe to know the meaning of life, of existance, of everything... i would trade the ones i love most for the answer...
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i ve done both and u wont
i ve done both and u wont belive me but thats exactly how it feels when i think of nothingness u see everyone everything from a different perspective and things are a lot more clear but careful cause its almost a bad trip thinkin about nothin trust me...
LSD=GOD
yo ive done a lot of drugs. but once i tripped on acid, i have no temptation to do anything else, besides smoke diggidy dank and Canadian Mist $17.99 a HALF GALLON. yeah its cheap as fuck. well, i never had a bad trip on acid, there can be dark times but its all about the vibes the people you are with are putting out. and driving is the most insane, since you know you can die, you start to trip harder, Me and my friend experienced the same trip of a high powered electro magnet shredding my car and we were both sitting in a black plain moving forward and when i hit the breaks the car rematerilized, lots of other shit was in my head like i just ran into a tree and a cop is yelling at me, but i stayed on the road. PRAISE LSD, ive driven in lego land and had the road split apart and magma pour out onto the highway when we were taking a road trip to kantuckey, and it was raining deer. yeah its crazy shit but you need to eat like 5 of them jellies and smoke DMT in crystal form. WTF. ACTUAL REAL TRIP. OUTER BODY EXPERIENCE.
Mah Life on Druhgs
ah've been on LSD for 20 years, taken eet twice a deh.
no way ah seen mah share o' ghosts
ah ain nevah seen those demons befo'
i see rainbohws n dosse' leprocons, always at it, ticklin me til mah skin feel like sheepskin
nevah have i seen mah share o'ghosts
nevah have i fallen asleep wit out knowin' who's dead and gone
i turn mah head to the east, still nobody in sight
swallow ma' pride
~Jamacca
i have tripped my fair share
i have tripped my fair share dramamine by far was the least enjoyable 4 me among other things, but everyone bottom line is too much of anything is bad. I mean if you r gonna do this shit then do it sparingly, any of you who knows about the whole drug cause and effect scheme know that the more often you do it the less you get and the more money you will spend and then over time it will take over your life. I mean half of the enjoyment is being able to know it is comeing after a month of stressful work paying bills arguing with friends family the normal ups/downs of life. Make a trip more like planning for a vacation instead of wanting it several times a week just to get through life thats no way to live, I mean you still gotta have goals for your future and actually follow through with them college,jobs,family etc. dont let drugs get in the way of that. As far as younger kids are concerned they are kids so all the adults on here telling them no may as well save your fingers from typing because I know these adolescents know right from wrong they will have to live with the choices they make. I know very few adults who actually listened to their parents but I DO NOT encourage drug use to anyone under 21. go to school get that part of your life out of the way first because trust me there is plenty to come after high school TRUST me lol. live life love life and do what brings you joy because in the end that is all that matters.
Yo ive eaten around 125 hits
Yo ive eaten around 125 hits and tripped numerious times on mushrooms. ive eaten 15 rolls in the course of 2 days. and the only thing im wondering if shit will ever stop moving. i havent tripped in 6 months.
wow
why do you still do it or somthing
I dont think if your any age
I dont think if your any age you should do any of that stuff!! What's the point of even doing it if it's going to mess up your life!! so why bother, I've been around people who done it and now they look back into time and see what they could of become in the futer! but it's thier loss!! they would be doing so good in school scince they hung around the wrong people they've fallen down and I have been there to pick up the pieces!! So all I have to say is thimk about what you do FIRST!!!
weed
so ive done just weed but what is the serious problem with it?
how does it really hurt me?
Mines
I have been taking x for about 2 years on and off about 15 times and i was completely unaware that it was hallucinogenic, I never saw anything krazy or heard of any1 seeing krazy shit. Id just pop a couple pills and party with friends and just feel all weird, unaffected by gravity, think things were a different color than what they are, and lights such as car headlights and street lights looked like rainbows. That is until last night. I took a pink budda and a blue budda at the same time and supposedly a chocolate lady (but in my opinion it was a pink naked lady) about an hour later and W0W. When that lady hit me omg I was wiggin balls. We were driven and all the lights were merging together and were creating animated objects such as dancen stick men and well anything I wanted. To test this new interesting ability i made like a cloud bubble with a knife in it, lined it up with friends heads and watched them being stabbed in the head repeatedly with blood squirting all over and everything. I was amazed and was convinsed I was a god. I could make lightning strike and literaly could control everything in my enviorment. Things were also happening randomly such as our drivers head shrank down to nothing and reinflated with a blink. I didnt really say anything to my friends as i could obviouly tell they weren't on one like i was so sat back and enjoyed it riding around with two 15's BuMpEn Tech N9nes T9X. The bass on that song was krazy especially at the end with the hole car vibrating. It was truly utterly amazing experience that I will remember for the rest of my life but sadly I had to ruin it by drinking and when I drink I get faded, blackout, and passs out everytime. I woke up still purty drunk and still feeling those pills. Its now 6:06 AM rite now and im still feeling it and when I smoke my weed it seems to bring it back up a little bit. Im think everyone still feels a little off the next day everytime but not like how its been with me today. Im not sure if im ever gonna feel normal again but if not o well, the way iv been lookin at and dealing with things today id say it changed me for the better ecsept my brain seems a little scrambled but thats normal for the day after. If your gona do x id recomend doing it with at least two good friends, being somewhere you feel comfortable because your not gonna know whats going on, and be sure your just a strong individual mentaly because i have no dought if your not and you have a bad trip it'll really mess with you and possibly scare you for life. Iv had a few bad trips and its not that bad, i mean its not fun but not that bad XD. Iv done weed (relaxed and intrigued), coke (grity and anxuos) , crack (worthless not worth the money), shrooms (happy, relaxed, and haha) extasy (WOW intense) every now and then ill smoke some Shards (AWAKE and im goin) and huffed spray paint and gas(hard to explain past out from gas tho and had a life changing dream)XD. No acid (never herd where to get never seen dont no much about) No heroin(yeah right) No steriods(please). In all my 16 years of experimenting the only thing I regret, and the one thing that has really fucked my life up and almost all of my friends lives up is weed from prolonged use three times a day everyday since the 5th grade. They say its not addicting but chocolate can be addicting. It made me lazy, rebellious, have really bad short term memory loss, get kicked out school and im now a 16 year old junior doing freshmen classes on some online school. The sad thing is I mainly started on this track because of the D.A.R.E. classes in 5th grade they told me I drugs would take over my life and I wouldn't do drugs and be successful and this and that. So I set out to prove them all wrong and im still working on it but io think iv failed. Kids dont need to no about drugs at such a young age and i dont think a school program teaching kids of any age about drungs is a good idea. It should be up to parents to keep kids away drugs. My advise is have fun, know what your doing, and dont pick your friends and build your life around weed. Dont make it your life...theres no going back
PCE
Hi there I wonder if anybody would kindly e mail me about...
Hi there I wonder if anybody would kindly e mail me about why they do drugs.
I am a wanna be writer and I am trying to write this book, in it the main character is going to be taking drugs as a form of escapism.
I have created a new e mail address especially for my research for my writing to post specifically on sites such as this so people can give me information.
I want to know what people experience while "tripping" or "on a high" I don't take drugs and I am not willing to for the sake of research. But I know a lot of people do take drugs. And reading all your comments on this page shows me that a lot of people that post here do as well.
I want to know what it's like to give drugs up as well, even cigarettes and alcohol. It all helps.
Any stories will be really appreciated and if I use any/all of the information provided and I am able to get a book deal. Credits will be given without question. (If you just want to be referred to by any other name other than your given one that is fine.)
I am being serious here guys.
This is important to me as I what the story to be realistic. Of sorts.
I'll be straight with you. I am writing a horror story the main Character is a vampire.
But I need to make it believable, that is where you lot come in.
All contributions welcome.
hallucinogens
I just think people who do drugs are all crazy! why do you want to kill yourself so early,
Hallucinogens, drugs
I worked in the medical lab field for 25 yrs, from 1981 to 2007 and have entered drug results and answered doctor's, nurse's, and patient's questions on drugs: the amount of time they stay in the body etc. I dealt for years with National Medical Services, NIDA, Medtox, and private substance of abuse testing labs. LSD is removed from your body very quickly, and you would have to die or get busted actively tripping for a tester or pathologist to find it in your body. The cell turnover in a human body is incredibly rapid, and I cannot remember the correct numbers, but I find it hard to believe that a person my age,late forties, who took acid as a kid and teenager, and I did many, many, many times, could be getting high or receiving flashbacks from residual cell activity. And if you are, what the hell, just enjoy it. All other drugs take at least one to three days to clear from your urine,the most common drugs of abuse testing specimen type. Bearing in mind the size of dose, length of time ingesting the drug, and the weight and metabolic percularities of the individual being tested all will affect how long this stuff hangs around, but if you live through the ingesting, your body will rapidly metabolize any drug you take into a desmethylxxxxxxx or another 15 letter name of the breakdown product ... Marijuana on the other hand will eventually attach itself to your adipose tissue (fat) and a good stoner may test positive for quite some time.
ecstacy
if u are going to do e make sure u are going to be with friends all night and in the morning cuz it does lead to extreme depresion and if u are with ur friends u wont htink about it, i have rolled10 time and had lots of fun with it,also make sure u r not abusing it cuz it will change ur personality. make sure u put space in between and be aware that depresion can hit u a week later and last a day to a week cuz that has hapened to me
You All Are Wrong
I have done acid like three or four times in my life, and meth for 15 years or so. I have been clean off it all now for 8 years, except weed. I like my weed! The only thing that I have noticed was I no longer have dreams. Has anyone else experienced this?
People that do drugs or drink
You all stuipd if you even tried drugs/drink GO Get Help I SAW THIS I AM TRYING TO DO HOMEWORK! DONT EVEN DO IT ONCE TRUST me LIVING CLEAN IS BETTER THAN BEING DIRTY. Even iF WAS ONCE!!!
Listen, your not going
Listen, your not going schizo its all in ur head, just relax take a breaht and chill out. Ive done acid a bunch of times and mushis are my favorite drug ever, infact im gettin some in like 3 hours, E is a fun drug and takin it like 3 hours after you do like 3 hits of acid just hightens the experince, and i smoke pot all day every day and its been like this for the past 2 or 3 years. You will be fine just think happy thoughts and everything will cool, trust me.
im scared
when i was in 9th grade(14 yrs. old) i did lsd 3 times(only tripped hard once), shrooms(mabey 5 times), smoked weed A LOT, and did E like 3 or 4 times. Now im 16 in 11th grade and im starting to hallucinate a little bit( like being on shrooms). im not hearing things, just seeing things(like things moving in my peripheral vision, sometimes things i stare at begin to morph, ect). But the weird thing is, i felt normal ever since up until now and im really freaked out. i hope im not going schizophrenic :(. please help
salvia and peyote
hey wut do u kno about salvia??i heard it was pretty good? also i have a peyote plant and i was wondering how much would it b worth, its about 2 inches tall and 4 inches wide..how much could i get for it, and should i try it?...
Salvia
if you wanna do salvia do 10X your first time ive done it a couple times and when i finaly tried 20 X i actualy saw myself in a different dimension.
i tried salvia and not much,
i tried salvia and not much, have heard some pretty hectic stories bout it tho, peyote on the other hand is some powerfull shit!!!!!!!!!!! dont know how much your plant wld be worth, wld gladly take it off your hands for you if you looking to get rid of it, but i wld rather reccomend trying it first, just do some research beforehand. its not something to fuck around with!
acid
acid is the the greatest drug in the whole world when taken in moderation. i myself have done it maybe 7 times over about 4 years and have always had the most awsome time!!!!!!!!! istrongly feel that it is all mind over matter. i reccomend for everyone to experiment, just get your head in the right mind frame before doing so. for instance... if you see a dragon, don't freak out at the dragon, ask the dragon for a hug! acid is there for you to explore your mind. happy exploring fellow trippers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As far as hallucinogens go
Hey DarkTussan, thanks for that man!! i was in hysterics reading that!!
anyway dude.... do me a favour and read this book: Ramtha- the white book. And then maybe you'll see that you're not crazy. Acid doesnt lie. I've never done it but sure as hell going to soon! God is very much within you. Start reading some New Age teachings.
Peace
You don't trip from chewin
You don't trip from chewin stems? BS smoked only a Dimebag of cali headies with my friend, chewed on the stems and i was the highest ive ever been, my heart was throbbing like crazy and my eyes were bleeding i thought i was gunna die, and i actually was trippin to saw unreal things but i dont think it was laced cause i checked it out
you chew
you chew on marijuana stems and nothing will happen, it is all a myth about how you can chew on them and start trippin, all they do is taste good. LSD stays in your spinal cord your whole life and if you crack your back just right you could possible have a severe flashback, trust me because it happened to me.
perspective on life
I have only tripped acid 3 times and it def. Has changed my perspective on life. I feel very in touch with myself. I do believe you should not make a habit out of it because every trip seems to be different in few ways. If you are someone who wants to find out who you really are on the inside then i suggest doing it at least once in your life.
As far as hallucinogens go,
As far as hallucinogens go, acid is like a concentrated mushroom trip. My first time, I did 5 hits; not all at once, but spread throughout the night. I perceived what appeared to be a cell shaded world, meaning that certain objects, like leaves on a tree, appeared to be flattened and 2 dimensional; but also that the colors themselves were brighter, and changed in a weird way. My friend's face changed slightly, he looked like a goblin (that was how I described it) and when I looked in the mirror I did as well. I was first sure that it was real when I started having an uncontrollable urge to laugh, things were funny. My friend, who had given it to me, accidentally spilled some on his hand while transferring it form vial to vial, and I watched him lick it off. He freaked out, and it was almost enough for a bad trip, we had to restrain him, but we ended up leaving. My friend was driving; yes, driving, his first time ever tripping acid, and we made it home okay. My other friend complained about being attacked by alligators and saying he took too much, but I remember it as a really good trip.
Since my first time, I have tripped maybe 20 times at most; very spread out. But the craziest trip I ever had was completely and totally insane. At one point, the world appeared to be moving in fast forward, I would have conversations with people and would know what they were going to say before they finished saying it. I believed I was a god, and could tell the future as well as control my environment by controlling time. I thought I had died at one point, I remember being scared, but the world was moving too quickly for me to form enough of a thought. I watched clouds in the sky swirl and form different objects, objects that I could to some degree control. I could tell that one of my good friends was stuck in the same 'loop' of fast speed that I was. He kept saying, "I just want it to stop, I just want it to stop I can't handle it." He kept talking about not wanting to see the future; and since we kept talking about telling the future I think he meant that he could see what I did. While I was viewing the world sped up, I remember viewing the world as a giant time line that I was gliding over, seeing history written at every second and people living out their destinies. I had a feeling that everybody was eternal and when we died, we would be born again to live another life; that this was what life was all about, the joy of forgetting your past lives and remembering only your present life. I did not remember any 'past lives' or craziness like that, I just had a strong sense that God was with me; watching me, and affecting my life. Small coincidences became undeniable proof of a higher being, a conscious being. I took my friend's car and drove as fast as I could down the street, it was pure insanity. I believed I could tell the future and I drove insanely; I was insane. The car ran out of gas just as the song I was listening played "I'm tired of playing your game" or something like that; more proof in my insane mind that God was playing with me. I told God (yes I was praying/having one sided conversations with a higher consciousness) that I just wanted a place to sleep that wasn't my friend's house; everybody there was insane and I couldn't handle it. About 4 minutes later a police officer stopped me while I was walking down the street (with no shoes, no shirt, no ID, no phone, and numerous calls that the vehicle I had been driving was driving erratically) and told me I had warrants and was being arrested. I got in the back of the car and they took me to jail, where I proceeded to flip out saying that I was tired of this life and wanted to get on to the next one; that I would kill myself by stopping my heart with my mind. They had me talk to a counselor and I was put in a padded vest and allowed to sleep. The next day when I awoke, I drank orange juice and had what I considered to be an amazing breakfast. I was sober, but the world seemed like a magical place, and everything had slowed down again. I asked very politely when I was to be released and they asked me if I still wanted to kill myself. I said, "Absolutely not, I love life!" And they asked me about the night before; I told them I had been on acid. I was released immediately (apparently I had had no warrants and was given no tickets). They gave me shoes and a shirt and sent me on my way; I got a ride home and was back at the house before my friends had stopped tripping. That was the most insane trip of my life. XD
There's a lot more to the story and I can be very scatterbrained while trying to write it all out but let me just say this. I have a lot of friends who have done a lot of drugs, and it's lots of fun and blah blah blah but you have to ask yourself what your goals in life are. If you are 15-20 and you're wondering about trying acid and doing drugs, you need to ask yourself how you're going to take care of yourself when you get older. You're going to need money and that is what making it in this world is all about. If you don't believe me ask your dealer how much he paid for his drugs. The point is, don't let the distraction of drug abuse make you lose this game. I'm 20 years old at writing this and I feel like I lost so much time. I wouldn't go back and change anything, but I'm also working my ass off trying to make up for lost time. I would take an established life now over the joys of drug abuse any day, as much as I made my life about drugs in the past. Yes I'm preaching and it doesn't matter to anyone and maybe nobody will read this but this is for my peace of mind more than anyone else. Beat the game of life and experiment with fucking up your brain afterward. ^.- I still hallucinate sometimes before falling asleep or when waking up, and I have noticed dark circles under my eyes that do not go away no matter how much sleep I get. I did a lot of DXM (over 400 trips I'm sure) and I blame that drug more than acid. But I've had temporary psychosis and it is not fun. I believed that I was God's chosen one and yadda yadda. Nobody could tell me otherwise I was completely sure about something that made no sense. That is what being psychotic is all about. Anyways, be good, be safe, and think about what you wanna have in the next 30 years before you start fucking up your life now. It's not gonna matter how cool your acid trip was while you spend every week working in some shitty restaurant making minimum wage >.>.
RE: As far as hallucinogens go
I read your post in its entirety. I'm 17 and can relate to alot of the posts on here. I agree with what you said. Hell i'll even admit to being a little inspired. I personally believe that getting "high" thru drugs is a state of being where you establish a deeper magical connection with God and your soul. From books i've read about death and people who tell of their experience of being pronounced dead for mintues at a time and coming back to life i see alot of connections with stories and books of experiences that people have had through drugs; therefore i don't find your story all that insane as a stiff therapest may. I personally don't plan on doing acid any time soon cuase i would like to get my life together. But Great post, I urge others to listen in and be smart about the decisions they make with these powerful drugs, espcecially at such a young age. Keep it real man and good luck';)
Speed virgin
Ok i'm 17, going to try speed for the first time, anything i need to watch out for? besides getting ripped off?
My advise is: DONT do meth!
My advise is: DONT do meth! Thats ignorant. Dont become so bored with life, to where you have to refer to a drug like meth. Go see a movie or read a book or something. Maybe find a new group of friends. That stuff will lead you straight to rock bottom. And i never saw anything fun about it. Ive tried it, and honestly it was a waste of money. I should have taken my girl out to eat with the money i spent on that crap.
my experience with acid
im 19 years old and i just recently tried acid for the first time this past sunday august 31 2008, however i have been experimenting with olther hard core drugs since i was 15 years old. It started when i got into high school. It wasnt my friends who really got me to give into the peer pressure but my family. I figured that they where supposed to be the people in my life that care about me the most and if they were doing it and telling me to do it then it couldnt be that bad so at 15 years old i took my first ecstacy pill with my cousin for her birthday...then i tried coke for the first time with my aunt. Then i began meeting kids in high school as a freshmen who shared the same intrest as me and i continued to use more drugs more frequently. I couldnt tell you for how long ive been telling my friends and family that i was going to change my life style get my self on the right path and head in a new direction but i could never really find the strenght to let go and seperate from the life ive lived for so long and i just continued getting fucked up all the time. My acid experience lasted from sunday when i took it at 10 untill i finally fell asleep tuesday morning at 9!! And now its thursday and im still not quite back to my "normal self" and although part of me regrets what i did i also wouldnt take it back for the world because it opened my eyes to the "real" world and how amazing it is.
Brings about a sense of Disillusionment
I am researching this apparently popular drug to discuss with my college age daughter. I am saddened to read about 'trippers' giving 'advice' on doing a 'safe' trip. Shame on you. Facing your life is the hardest and most rewarding 'trip' you can take. Escaping into a drug 'trip' is a cowardly existence reserved for scared pathetic child-minded adults that are out-of-control. The future looks bleak for those of you hiding behind drugs and escape trips. I have attended two funerals in the past year of two 21 year olds dying from drugs. Their families are shattered and their dead drug tripping children are gone. Permanently. If you choose a drug filled existence, know you are treating your gift of life as a joke. Your chances of an early death have just increased greatly. A brave person would walk away from drugs. Get a backbone. Get a life.
just wondering
ive never done it before but i would like to know how it effects you before i ever do try it if i do. because i dont want to have a bad trip and do something stupid. my dads friend had a badddd trip and killed hisself while he was trippin cuz he thought someone was tryn to kill him and he jumped out a window but how can u control the effects of acid. like can u control if ur gunna have a bad trip or not?
Basically, every person who
Basically, every person who has a bad trip either does it at a young age, doesn't research the effects, or is in the wrong place with the wrong people.
Be smart, aware, and don't listen to bullshit urban legends. I've had fellow college students tell me that LSD causes your brain to bleed into your spinal column, which makes you trip. How does that even make sense? The fat cell storage is a bunch of bullshit as well. LSD is unlike anything else in the world, and of course if you're going through a bad experience with it, it will seem so profound that you may be haunted by the effects for a quite long time (don't eat strong acid until you know what you're doing!)
This is just for everyone
This is just for everyone that is stupid enough to think that LSD isnt dangerous:
Yes its true that not everyone will have the same effect from it, but I've done mushrooms once (and not lsd a 100 times like most of you of whom I'm surprised you're still alive) when i was 15 "for the experiment" and I had the biggest bad trip ever. Apparently i was really sensetive for it, and then it went on for 2 years of 24/7 psychosis, medication and therapy. You're all gonna say "i already had it in me" but the fact is that hallucinogenic drugs change things in your brain, even one little mushroom can do this! I know it's the most exciting and interesting thing to just trip away but I think anyone who wants to do it should really look things up about it first and make it a safe trip.
To the mom with the psychotic son: Tell him that i had it to and it gets better and goes away after time, I had risperdal as well and it really got me through it.
Just because you got better
Hey, I don't know if you've
Hey,
I don't know if you've ever been psychotic but, basically when you are you don't believe you'll ever get better because you're not actually sure to be alive or not. All that this boy needs is hope and understanding. And good anti-psychotics.
with LSD, the reason people
with LSD, the reason people continue to experience flashbacks of the drug is because LSD is siuch a strong drug, and very pure, it stores in body fat, instead of blood stream. by storing in the body fat it enables the drug to have to ability 're activate' whenever the body fat particles move around. so when the body fat particles shift, change or move there is a possibility of a secondary trip, or similar side affects of the drug. this is why some people experience life 'stuck in an acid trip' as the amount of acid consumed is enough to create constant and often 'secondary trips' even one tab of acid can cause this reaction, it is just more common with copious amounts of acid.
To Scared Mom
I'm so sorry to hear about your son. I have myself done LSD a number of times, but not so much as these people (or, apparently, as much as your son). It is physically impossible to take LSD the next day-- it does absolutely nothing. Those of you dropping "every three days" are completely nuts for doing so, and honestly you deserve whatever comes to you. While it is not at all dangerous as a drug (in fact it is less physically disruptive than aspirin), the places it takes you are not entirely rational nor logical; hence, if you do too much, or do it too often, you'll absolutely fall out of touch with "the real world". This is an obvious side effect of being in such a grossly different level of reality for 8-10 hours.
From your comment, Scared Mom, it does seem that your son was a) already at risk for some psychological issues, as LSD can bring these to the fore even if they aren't known (not so much with mushrooms, which are pretty benign and not nearly as intense), and b) he likely did way, way, WAY too much. I sincerely hope that he finds some relief, as I can only imagine what you and your family are going through. I would be scared of using antipsychotics more than I'm scared of LSD, however. Antipsychotics cause permanent and very large changes to the brain and nervous system.
But seriously, guys:
LSD is a tool to profoundly alter your awareness and give you new insights. It is a way to see the world as if you've never seen it before. But it's stronger than you-- and if you overdose or overuse it, it will come back to bite you. Spiritual teachers throughout history have understood these risks, but the people taking these drugs seem to have no idea. Everything I've heard on this forum has reeked of abuse, neglect, and abject stupidity.
Please, for your own sake, listen to this mother and realize that YOU MUST BE RESPONSIBLE, RESPECTFUL, AND READY.
Scared Mom
You are total idiots to be gambling with your brains. My son just came back from college and has schizoeffective symptoms from his experimentation with LSD and Mushrooms.He is constantly sufferin; we are trying to stailize him with anti-psychotic medicines. Seroquel and abilify did not work. It looks like rispideral
might be helping. He is in a 4-day a week dual diagnosos program and is facing the loss of what he once one.
I am scared to death. Any input?
Well...
We all do cid and shrooms...
Tell your son to stop OD'ing on extacy, and ruining the half decent drugs for the rest of us.
Yes, I know that, its what he did. I was inpatient rehab for 6 weeks after OD'ing on extacy. He's just crying about it so mommy and daddy aren't mad.
10$ says he does it again.
You don't need to be worried, just ask your son what he TRUTHFULLY did at college
Flashbacks
When I was 14 I went to these guys house with my step sister and smoked weed, a couple of second after that I felt weird, like I wasn't in my body and then as I was on my way to sleep I saw my self in front of me and jumped up, and told by sister, me and my stepsister were staying with, as I talked to them the feeling went away. I got up the next day and went to school; I started thinking about that day and the feeling came back, I left school and had to tell my parents, I thought I was going to lose it. My stepfather told me what he went through when he was younger and how he dealt with it and told me that I just have to forget about it and it will go away. I am 24 now and the feeling has came back between this time period and went away once I get my mind off it, but now its back and the thing about this is that I don't even be thinking about that and the feeling comes, why is it still affecting me and am I going to lose it?
im 15 and im curious....ive
im 15 and im curious....ive been experimenting, and i wanted to know if i should try acid. A lot of people think drugs are good expieriences in life as long as you dont abuse them. I just want to try it once but i need a little more info. before i do it. I just want to if its true that you really hallucinate. i smoke weed and drink on the weekends with my friends and i like that feeling so does acid feel like that a kind of thc high or do you just trip balls and go insane??
Not yet kiddo
OK, I hope I'm not too late but don't listen to that Bozo who's telling you to do acid. Anyone that says it's not that big of a deal probably hasn't even done it. I know you're 15 and when I was that age I smoked pot and drank, too. It really is totally normal as long as you keep it under control. I would like to steer you away from anything harder than pot, but if you are anything like me (and it sounds like you are) you probably won't listen. My advice, if you are curious about hallucinogenics, is to try mushrooms first. Make sure they're stems and not chocolates and you should have a good time as long as you're with friends. Shrooms are more of a body high, but you definitely get some mild visuals and they really are fun to do with friends. Make sure you have pot because it definitely enhances the feeling. I tried acid and I didn't like it at all, way too intense and not in a good way. Plus, you are way too young to try something that has the long-term effects acid has. If you want to do it later in life that's your decision, just not yet. Be careful and safe kid.
Do acid. It is not as crazy
Do acid. It is not as crazy as people hype it up to be. You will find it will make you feel very happy and peaceful, and you will have a deeper understanding of things. On just one hit, you will be in control of your body and what you are doing. Hallucinations are very subtle, stuff warps a little if you stare at it, but you can walk around, talk to people, and function very well on just one hit. Its like normal life, amplified.
If you're 15 you shouldn't
If you're 15 you shouldn't be doing any drugs (including drinking). Your brain is still developing and your perceptions of the world hinge on reliable input from your real-life experiences. I've known a lot of people who did all kinds of drugs, and I find that the people who started smoking marijuana in high school have a tendency to be unable to cope with real life in their twenties and, frankly, come off as out of touch and kind of pathetic. LSD is absolutely life-changing, but so is being in high school, your first love, leaving your family to be on your own, going to college, turning 21--you're a long ways away from the point where life is boring and *needs* a change.
It's not like THC or being drunk at all and you might really enjoy it or you might have the most terrifying evening of your life. And since you're in the middle of puberty right now, your hormones are already out of whack, which isn't going to put you in a good position to being with.
LSD
im 17 years old , and ive been droppin acid for about 4 months now at raves mostly, and im still normal. i drop acid at least 3 times a week sometimes more.
LSD is not dangerous.!
LSD
Tho LSD is not dangerous and no one has overdosed on it. it is still very bad for you and could be dangerous if you have a bad trip which could happen to anyone even you so do LSD when your happy NOT sad or you might have a bad trip and could hurt someone or worse your self...
3 TIMES A WEEK!?
Thats crazy!. Im 17 and I have done acid a few times and definatly my share of mushrooms,weed smoking and others but i mean come on! Is your life that boring that you drop acid 3 times a week. And to think that this has no effect and isnt dangerous is crazy! That shit fucks with your mind and CAN not always but can permantly damage your mental state for life. It has helped alot of people in crazy situations like with OCD, post traumatic stress and even people with terminal cancer but there are also HUNDREDS of cases of people commiting suicide and murder and insane things like that because of LSD.
Now im not some 'straight edge, jesus pushing, annoying anti drug person' im definatly into the stuff but i just think you should do some reading my friend. Just cause your fine right now and feel no effects..the next time could be it and as you age im sure youl see the effects.
All im saying is BE SMART!
good trippin' to all
I think not
LSD being stored in the spine in an urban legend; it has a half life of 3 hours and the body processes it entirely. Anti-drug campaigners(?) made up the spinal myth because it's not easy to verify and sounds like serious business. LSD trips are certainly serious business and I have no doubts that you can really mess with your mind for life if you take it too often, but people need to stop propagating this spinal fluid silliness.
u are all crazy
any of yall that do hallucinogens yalls crazy. i mean u could die frum that stuff so why do u do it?
welll.....
You could DIE driving to work!!
Why would you put yourself in that kind of danger?
You should just dig a hole in the ground, about 50ft deep, get yourself some food, and cover the hole.
Thats the only way you'll ever be safe.
Oh wait... your still gonna die anyways.
In There For Life
The unique thing about LSD as opposed to pretty much every other drug is that it stays in your body for your entire life. THC can be totally removed from even a chronic smoker in a week if he does the right things. Cocaine is untraceable in your body after 2 to 3 days, depending on metabolism. LSD on the other hand never leaves your body, and can be traced in your spine with a spinal tap after one dies and had used LSD earlier in life. Luckily for all you psychonauts out there, it is extremely difficult and expensive for any job to test for LSD :)
Be careful though.. drugs effect everyone differently. Some of my friends love the drug and are always up to do it... others say its too intense to do often and do it very rarely. A couple of my friends absolutely hated it and never want to do it again. Know what you're getting in to, because it will probably change you for life. Its good to do research like this; LSD is not a drug for anyone that just wants to have a good time, it can be a rollercoaster experience in every aspect.
To the people that commented and said you have vertigo like symptoms after chronic use..be lucky thats all you have. Syd Barrett from Pink Floyd went clinically insane from doing too much LSD. He was committed to a mental institution for the majority of his later life. People say his sentences made no sense when he talked and he habitually brushed his teeth. Also, Jerry Garcia, who its been said had a goal in life to always be tripping, pretty much makes no sense when he talks if you ever watch interviews with him in his later life. I used to work with an older guy at an animal hospital who used to be a major LSD user during the hippie era; he would actually have what he believed were real conversations with all the dogs, he was pretty creepy. I'd take vertigo over that any day.
Trying it once
I want to try it for the first time on my birthday. I was wondering what are the most severe things that could happen because of this. Both short term, and long. I plan on marrying my girlfriend and I don't want this one trip to destroy what I have. It says it alters ones perception after the trip, like your experiencing a new thing you never have, and it has completley changed your life.
About the birthday thing,
About the birthday thing, all I have to say is find 2-3 good friends that you like to hang with, pick something fun to that you all like to do (play video games or whatever) have some money out so one of your clean friends can get a pizza about 1/2 way through, lastly unplug you internet, lock your doors and all in all keep the outside out. The last think you want is something happening that you did not plan on, that will mess up the hole thing for you.
effects of acid on the mind
if anyone knows the medical effects of acid on the brain especially the cerebellum please let me know. i am writing a report for school and i need to know so if theres any health care proffessionals looking through this please respond thanks
Reply to 1st LSD trip on your birthday!!
I have done LSD a few times when I was younger (as a teenager) and my advice is that you shouldn't even bother. It is a nasty dirty drug and the way you feel coming down off of it is nasty. If it is any idication as to what it does to your body and brain than that is a scary thought. Stick to simple things like bud, and maybe even shrooms, anr a good alternative. That is just my personal opinion. If you do decide to do it then make sure you are around people you trust to take care of you if something goes wrong cause if you have a bad trip than your stuck dealing with it for like 8 hours.
I definitely disagree. I
I definitely disagree. I think that marijuana feels dirtier as the effects feel more sloppy. I would recommend trying it because you can read as much as you want, thousands of reports, but you still wont know what the experience is like. And isnt that what life is all about, living through experience.
Yeah I agree. you can read
Yeah I agree. you can read all you want and ask people all you want but you'll never know until you try it. I seriously doubt doing it once will really affect you very much afterwords. Really. I think everyone should try it just once. And you won't necessarily have a bad comedown either. It varies by person. I didn't have a nasty comedown, i just couldnt sleep but it was fine.
About the the comedown, I
About the the comedown, I don't know what you took to have it so easy but I tried acid once and it was the 2ed hardest thing I have ever went through in my life. I took it on a Friday and for the next 2 days I was puking unable to eat anything and then Monday was a test that could not be missed, so shacking I stood up and did what needed to be done to get to that test and I passed with %75.
affects of hallucinogens in later years: REPLY
LSD is often trapped in certain cells in the brain/spinal cord having vertigo or flashbacks in later years could very eaisily be caused by these cells breaking down and releasing the drug back into your system
well basically i've done
well basically i've done acid a few times.. and let me tell you it was amazing.. i havent dropped in awhile but occasionally get awesome flashbacks.. ecspecially when i smoke the herb.
question
what is the effect that lsd has on the brain
what effect does marijuana,alcohol,heroin,inhalant,nicotine, and steroids have on the brain?
what part of the brain is effected by these drugs?
QUESTION
okay so is it true acid makes your spinal chord bleed?
no
no not at all does it make your spine bleed
affects of hallucinogen in later years
I'm one who abused LSD in my high school years (1973 to 1975) and a little in my adult years. The last use of this drug was once in the latter part of 1976 then last time was once in 1985. The heaviest use was as a 15 to 16 year old teen where it was literally every other day, at 17 maybe three times a month. Now at 50 years old I have a form of vertigo mostly. It’s a continuous internal feeling of dizziness with an occasional feeling of LSD, or the beginning stages of the drug, without the hallucination.
I am going through test with my Doctor but they are not sure, as yet, what’s causing this.
I'm wondering if there any medical knowledge of this being a result of long term abuse later in the life of an abuser?
Acid trips in younger life causing vertigo in later years
If you or anyone believes that vertigo is caused by many acid trips in your younger days, how would one explain the fact that there are people who tripped a lot in their younger years and do not experience vertigo in their later years (probably hundreds of thousands of people over the world).
How also would one explain that there are also many people who experience vertigo that have never touched a drug in their lives.
These two things are not correlated.
Believe what you want.
"If you or anyone believes
"If you or anyone believes that vertigo is caused by many acid trips in your younger days, how would one explain the fact that there are people who tripped a lot in their younger years and do not experience vertigo in their later years (probably hundreds of thousands of people over the world).
How also would one explain that there are also many people who experience vertigo that have never touched a drug in their lives."
I think the way to explain this is that everyone in the world is different.
Mark Huerta
I have heard of your case before, one of my friends did lsd constantly many hits a day and he is in the same state of mind as you.
i gotta say, i havent done
i gotta say, i havent done acid near as much as you, im only on my 23rd trip. but i do believe your experiencing vertigo because your brain became slightly accustomed to the drug and now that its gone your body is working to produce a filler for the void where the drug once was. this is only a theory, but i beleive it has some basis to it because the body will produce what it lacks if necesary.. but one can never really know unless you can delve into the mind of another person....
It has nothing to do with
It has nothing to do with your brain. The LSD that you took earlier was stored in your fat cells. When you start to burn those fat cells, you get flashbacks that make it seem like youre on the drug again.
That's not true. Sure some
That's not true. Sure some may get stored in fat and be released if you're running a marathon, but 20 micrograms that you took several times won't be messing you up for years.
Flashbacks
Flashbacks occur even if you have been off the drug for years. As a long time user you may be having diluted flashback episodes and the confusion your body associates with LSD Vertigo and dizziness.
Also; another hallucinogenic
Also; another hallucinogenic is when you chew the stem of a Marajunana leaf. But it also makes you uhh... die.
lmao! you can not die from
lmao! you can not die from marijuana, it is impossible to overdoes.
drugs
that is not true because you cant over dose on weed
lol
1)
1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD
2) www.erowid.org
I am not really a chronic drug user, although I have done my share of mushrooms, marijuana, and I dropped two hits of LSD on October 25th, 2008. I had always wanted to try LSD, but wasn't sure because earlier in September of 2008 I did an eighth of mushrooms, had an AWESOME trip, and ended up having a bad trip, so I was somewhat reluctant to try any other hallucinogens. I did some research and a section from the above, highlighted article from Wikipedia entitled "Bicycle Day" solely led me to drop the two hits. I also researched LSD on the second website, The Vaults of Erowid, which encompasses nearly all known drugs, their basics, effects, doses, etc. It was the best experience of my life and I'm glad I experimented with it. Every person's experience with drugs varies; however, when in a stable state of mind (meaning no distractions or undertakings you need to pursue/accomplish, i.e. homework, meetings, employment, etc.), people you want to trip with and trust tripping with (or maybe if you trip by yourself like I did), listening to some of your favorite tunes (Incubus, Bob Marley, etc.), and being somewhere you WANT to trip (i.e. nature, familiar areas like your house/room) then you're experience may be exceptional. Once again, this is not for everyone, but if you do decide to experiment, hopefully the above websites can be of some assistance.
I used to grow and smoke
I used to grow and smoke all the time. I've made food products from pot. Sometimes taking out the THC. Sometimes just throwing the weed right in to the mix and we were not picky. Buds, seeds, and STEMS. You can not die from chewing on the stem. Infact, the seeds are a better protein than all meats and nuts. Oh, and I used to chew on the stems all the time and I never hallucinated.
not true
I smoke marijuana all the time and always chew the stems, I guess you can choke on it and die, but marijuana has no poisoneus(sp) chemicals in it.
well... technically
The actual chemical reaction of THC is considered posionious...
Then again, I still smoke about an ounce a week. I just enjoy the pain ;)
technically????
how and what do you mean by technically
acid
my b/f chews the stem of the marajunana leaf and he is not dead so that is not true.
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